rbdeli

Well, back to my original comment:
It's a great-looking horn, right?

:)

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ChopsGone

It's a matter of personal taste. Are you sure you wouldn't rather have a nice blue one?

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Calicchios, Besson, Kanstul Bessons, Selmers, etc.

F.E. forgive me, even a Bach Strad (but I like the others much better)

mike ansberry

There was someone either here or at TH that said he worked for Olds in the 40's and 50's. He said that Olds wanted to market a student horn, but didn't want to tool up to make a cheap horn. So they put the Ambassador name on what is basically a pro line horn and dropped the price to sell in volume to kids.

I have no idea of the veracity of this statement. But I have played some darn good Ambassadores.

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Eclipse MR in scratch gold
Olds Super/Ultrasonic
Conn 40B
Leblanc Paris large bore with Bach mouthpipe
Bach 37
Olds L-12 Flugel
Benge Picc
Buescher Cornet made in 1914
American Standard (King?) beginner trumpet (crap)

Willing to provide a good home for a stray Conn 48B or Olds Recording

mike ansberry

Ooops. I didn't see the earlier post quoting Zig Kanstul. I guess he would have been "somebody who worked for Olds".

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"Music is a fire in your belly that has to come out of your mouth, so you'd better put a horn in the way before someone gets hurt" (paraphrase of Bleeding Gums Murphy)

Eclipse MR in scratch gold
Olds Super/Ultrasonic
Conn 40B
Leblanc Paris large bore with Bach mouthpipe
Bach 37
Olds L-12 Flugel
Benge Picc
Buescher Cornet made in 1914
American Standard (King?) beginner trumpet (crap)

Willing to provide a good home for a stray Conn 48B or Olds Recording

ChopsGone

Foster Reynolds had a good sense of timing, too. At a time when school bands all over the country were scrabbling for military surplus instruments, many made in the 1930's, and the competition were largely offering the same old same old - if not made in the '30's, then probably designed then - here came fresh, new, affordable, quality designs. It didn't hurt that school music programs were starting a boom period then, either. None of that changes the fact that the Ambassadors were, first and foremost, Olds horns, back when that meant a lot.

I think interior decorators should be limited to purple, lavender, pink, or flamed trumpets.

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Vintage Olds and Reynolds, yes sir, yes sir, one gazoo full.

Calicchios, Besson, Kanstul Bessons, Selmers, etc.

F.E. forgive me, even a Bach Strad (but I like the others much better)

rbdeli

Two-Tone: Blue with Green trim.

I bet you'd be all over that!

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ChopsGone

Well, I could certainly lose my lunch all over something like that. But why would you take offense to my asking if you wouldn't prefer a nice blue one? You were the one who started another thread about exactly such a thing. Personally, I just pretend such TSPOS's don't exist. In my world, they do not.

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Vintage Olds and Reynolds, yes sir, yes sir, one gazoo full.

Calicchios, Besson, Kanstul Bessons, Selmers, etc.

F.E. forgive me, even a Bach Strad (but I like the others much better)

MusicShop-More

I did the Olds Ambassdor. I think they are very well made and play better then most student horns. Yes, My name is John Cyfers

rowuk

Listen to Al! The bottom line is that MOST quality trumpets play well (even a student Yamaha today!).
A student horn should be durable, in tune and easy to play with poor breath support. Generally, thicker metal makes them more durable but offers less flexibility of sound. Sometimes easy to play is sacrificed for projection in a pro trumpet.

The ambassador may have been built with the same bell mandrel as a Mendez. So what? Indy and conventional car tires are both round and may even have the same diameter. A horn is the sum of its parts and the care that was taken during assembly. Pro horns simply get more attention and are built with parts designed for performance, not to take a beating.

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tedh1951

The Ambassador needs red felts to take the edge off the 'bling' - don't you think?

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