Vintage Trumpets / Cornets Discuss The Holy Grail? in the Equipment forums; Just curious, since there seems to be so many ardent fans of many different horn manufacturers, what would you classify ...
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The Holy Grail?
Just curious, since there seems to be so many ardent fans of many different horn manufacturers, what would you classify each brand's cream of the crop horn in the vintage category? Here's a few of the bigger companies (in no particular order), but feel free to chime in with anyone you can think of:
1. Martin-
2. Bach-
3. King-
4. Olds-
5. Conn-
6. F. Besson-
7. Yamaha-
8. Getzen-
9. Buescher-
10. Selmer-
11. ?
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1. Martin- Committee
2. Bach-Strad 37
3. King- Super 20
4. Olds- Super Recording, Mendez, Ambassador (yea baby)
5. Conn- Connstellation 38b , 22b if you're REALLY old
6. F. Besson- 20-20
7. Yamaha- Too new a maker for me to be vintage HAHA
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8. Getzen- Super Deluxe, 900 Eterna including Severinsens
9. Buescher- Super 400
10. Selmer-Radial
11. Blessing- Super Artist ( because Clifford played it)
12. Bundy - naaaaaaah
Last edited by tobylou8; 11-13-2010 at 01:23 PM.
Reason: Add blessing and Bundy (ha)
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Re: The Holy Grail?
Would you say the Martin committee Deluxe engraved large bore would be the holy grail over the standard committee?
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Re: The Holy Grail?

Originally Posted by
miles28
Would you say the Martin committee Deluxe engraved large bore would be the holy grail over the standard committee?
I would guess so. I have a deluxe, not a LB. Some players are LB "crazy", but word on the street was it had some intonation issues which is why it was not as popular. Chris Botti has changed peoples views of the LB Committee's but from what I understand, he says it is the only one of it's kind and it is an early one so... . Having said that, nobody with the money would turn down a standard Committee.
Knowledge is freedom, and ignorance is slavery - Miles Davis
The difference between a beginner and pro mouthpiece is practice - tobylou8
Nobody has learned how to play the trumpet. It's endless. - Maynard Ferguson
Don't be afraid to try something different. The Ark was built by an amateur and the Titanic was built by a group of experienced engineers.
By the inch it's a cinch, by the yard, it's hard!

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1. Martin- Committee
2. Bach- Stradivarius (they DO have other models... 37 Bell is most seen)
3. King- Old time Silver Flair (made by H.N.White)
4. Olds- Super Recording
5. Conn- 1.) Connstellation 2.) Vocabell
6. F. Besson- Meha
7. Benge- Claude Gordon Model
8. Getzen- Severinsen Eterna
9. Buescher- 400
10. Selmer- All the French Selmers. I prefer the Radial or K-Modified 25x
11. Blessing - Super Artist
12. Rudy Muck - Citation
Is that enough?
Ed Fitzgerald
Courtois Balanced Model LB Trumpet (Unknown Year)
1954 Olds Super w/Bach 43 bell Frankenhorn
1968 Olds Recording Trumpet
Courtois C Trumpet
1956 Conn 80A Cornet
1951 Olds Special cornet
Rudy Muck "Blessing Super Artist clone" cornet
NOT ONE coronet in the bunch
Getzen Eterna 4 valve flugel
Amati Kraslice 201H Flugel (once it gets back from the repair shop)
“Hindsight is always 20/20”
"I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it."
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You'd have to spend over $4000 to find a new trumpet that can outplay my 1966 Olds Recording. And then it won't beat the Recording by all that much.
"Music is a fire in your belly that has to come out of your mouth, so you'd better put a horn in the way before someone gets hurt"
Olds Super/Ultrasonic trumpet
Olds Recording trumpet
Olds L-12
Conn 40B
Eclipse MR scratch gold
Leblanc Paris large bore with Bach mouthpipe
Bach 37
Benge Picc
Buescher Mdl 15 Cornet in Bb/C/A (Dad's old horn)
Boston 3 Star Ne Plus Ultra
American Standard (King?) beginner trumpet (crap)(my first horn)
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Yes!!! My Severinsen made two lists so far.
Doc rocks!
turtle
Trumpets are for extroverts - Lee Morgan
1956 Olds Recording trumpet
2011 Carol Brass 658 RT trumpet
1948 Conn 12A Coprion cornet
1975 Selmer Signet alto sax
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Re: The Holy Grail?

Originally Posted by
miles28
Just curious, since there seems to be so many ardent fans of many different horn manufacturers, what would you classify each brand's cream of the crop horn in the vintage category? Here's a few of the bigger companies (in no particular order), but feel free to chime in with anyone you can think of:
1. Martin- #3 Deluxe Committee, pre war.
2. Bach- Mt. Vernon Model 37, the standard.
3. King- Super 20 with the sterling bell.
4. Olds- L.A. Super Recording
5. Conn- 2-B and 38-B, depending on era
6. F. Besson- pre war Meha
7. Yamaha- tough one, would have to go with the 8310.
8. Getzen- Easy, early 1970's Doc model.
9. Buescher- take a pass, don't play them.
10. Selmer- Balanced model 24B, would kill for a good one I could afford.
11. Schilke X3 or Callichio S2/1.
The list for #11 could be a mile long, but those two seem to be the standouts.
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Originally Posted by
edfitzvb
1. Martin- Committee
2. Bach- Stradivarius (they DO have other models... 37 Bell is most seen)
3. King- Old time Silver Flair (made by H.N.White)
4. Olds- Super Recording
5. Conn- 1.) Connstellation 2.) Vocabell
6. F. Besson- Meha
7. Benge- Claude Gordon Model
8. Getzen- Severinsen Eterna
9. Buescher- 400
10. Selmer- All the French Selmers. I prefer the Radial or K-Modified 25x
11. Blessing - Super Artist
12. Rudy Muck - Citation
Is that enough?
Rudy over Bundy? c'mon! HAHA
Knowledge is freedom, and ignorance is slavery - Miles Davis
The difference between a beginner and pro mouthpiece is practice - tobylou8
Nobody has learned how to play the trumpet. It's endless. - Maynard Ferguson
Don't be afraid to try something different. The Ark was built by an amateur and the Titanic was built by a group of experienced engineers.
By the inch it's a cinch, by the yard, it's hard!

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I have reached my Holy Grail with my Selmers, Radials Bb, C, D, Eb for Orchestra and 24A Balanced and Eclipse MS for Big Band.
I would love to have a Committee or a Super recording but I have spent enough on horns to see me out.
Regards, Stuart.
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