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    The Holy Grail?

    Just curious, since there seems to be so many ardent fans of many different horn manufacturers, what would you classify each brand's cream of the crop horn in the vintage category? Here's a few of the bigger companies (in no particular order), but feel free to chime in with anyone you can think of:

    1. Martin-
    2. Bach-
    3. King-
    4. Olds-
    5. Conn-
    6. F. Besson-
    7. Yamaha-
    8. Getzen-
    9. Buescher-
    10. Selmer-
    11. ?

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    Re: The Holy Grail?

    1. Martin- Committee
    2. Bach-Strad 37
    3. King- Super 20
    4. Olds- Super Recording, Mendez, Ambassador (yea baby)
    5. Conn- Connstellation 38b , 22b if you're REALLY old
    6. F. Besson- 20-20
    7. Yamaha- Too new a maker for me to be vintage HAHA !
    8. Getzen- Super Deluxe, 900 Eterna including Severinsens
    9. Buescher- Super 400
    10. Selmer-Radial
    11. Blessing- Super Artist ( because Clifford played it)
    12. Bundy - naaaaaaah
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    Re: The Holy Grail?

    Would you say the Martin committee Deluxe engraved large bore would be the holy grail over the standard committee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles28 View Post
    Would you say the Martin committee Deluxe engraved large bore would be the holy grail over the standard committee?
    I would guess so. I have a deluxe, not a LB. Some players are LB "crazy", but word on the street was it had some intonation issues which is why it was not as popular. Chris Botti has changed peoples views of the LB Committee's but from what I understand, he says it is the only one of it's kind and it is an early one so... . Having said that, nobody with the money would turn down a standard Committee.
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    Re: The Holy Grail?

    1. Martin- Committee
    2. Bach- Stradivarius (they DO have other models... 37 Bell is most seen)
    3. King- Old time Silver Flair (made by H.N.White)
    4. Olds- Super Recording
    5. Conn- 1.) Connstellation 2.) Vocabell
    6. F. Besson- Meha
    7. Benge- Claude Gordon Model
    8. Getzen- Severinsen Eterna
    9. Buescher- 400
    10. Selmer- All the French Selmers. I prefer the Radial or K-Modified 25x
    11. Blessing - Super Artist
    12. Rudy Muck - Citation

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    You'd have to spend over $4000 to find a new trumpet that can outplay my 1966 Olds Recording. And then it won't beat the Recording by all that much.
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    Re: The Holy Grail?

    Yes!!! My Severinsen made two lists so far.

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    Re: The Holy Grail?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles28 View Post
    Just curious, since there seems to be so many ardent fans of many different horn manufacturers, what would you classify each brand's cream of the crop horn in the vintage category? Here's a few of the bigger companies (in no particular order), but feel free to chime in with anyone you can think of:

    1. Martin- #3 Deluxe Committee, pre war.
    2. Bach- Mt. Vernon Model 37, the standard.
    3. King- Super 20 with the sterling bell.
    4. Olds- L.A. Super Recording
    5. Conn- 2-B and 38-B, depending on era
    6. F. Besson- pre war Meha
    7. Yamaha- tough one, would have to go with the 8310.
    8. Getzen- Easy, early 1970's Doc model.
    9. Buescher- take a pass, don't play them.
    10. Selmer- Balanced model 24B, would kill for a good one I could afford.
    11. Schilke X3 or Callichio S2/1.
    The list for #11 could be a mile long, but those two seem to be the standouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edfitzvb View Post
    1. Martin- Committee
    2. Bach- Stradivarius (they DO have other models... 37 Bell is most seen)
    3. King- Old time Silver Flair (made by H.N.White)
    4. Olds- Super Recording
    5. Conn- 1.) Connstellation 2.) Vocabell
    6. F. Besson- Meha
    7. Benge- Claude Gordon Model
    8. Getzen- Severinsen Eterna
    9. Buescher- 400
    10. Selmer- All the French Selmers. I prefer the Radial or K-Modified 25x
    11. Blessing - Super Artist
    12. Rudy Muck - Citation

    Is that enough?
    Rudy over Bundy? c'mon! HAHA
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    Re: The Holy Grail?

    I have reached my Holy Grail with my Selmers, Radials Bb, C, D, Eb for Orchestra and 24A Balanced and Eclipse MS for Big Band.

    I would love to have a Committee or a Super recording but I have spent enough on horns to see me out.

    Regards, Stuart.

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