bockhaus

A friend of mine came across a 1950's Huller Bb/C peashooter a while back. I've been to a few sites to learn more about Huller horns, but I haven't come across any info on the Bb/C that he found. Have any of you played one, or know any more about them? Thanks.

MFfan

Maybe you saw the one pictured on Horn-u-copia's Huller thread? Reply #7, a Huller Champion Bb/c Trumpets, showing the extra slide module which I suppose is to change the pitch. Definitely a pea-shooter. My Czech small bore is of similar design except it's just a Bb and doesn't have the distinctive bracing.

A post on the company history says:
"Franz Xavier Huller was born 12/29/1856;, in Pechbach, founded his factory in Graslitz in 1880. Ther company name was F.X. Huller (with umlat) until 1920.Then his sons in law :Anton riedly and Ernst Modl became partners. The name was changed to F.X. Huller & co.

Anton Riedl, was born in 1861 and established his own company in 1885. Anton Riedl was an accomplished machine, bell and instrument maker. A specialty of his were octagonal trumpet bells. He closed his own company and building in 1936.

After WWII, Ernst Modl re-opened F.X Huller the company in Neustadt/Aisch and change the name to EMO (from his name Ernst Modl). This company was closed after his death in 1972.

A lot of interesting horns from their history are pictured and described.

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Dave Rafferty
07 Barrington Trumpet, 1972 Reynolds Medalist
55 Besson 8-10 trumpet
55 Roth by Reynolds Cornet
73 Olds Ambassador Cornet
30's Czech small bore Trumpet
Getzen 80 cornet, 33 American Standard cornet
66 Olds Ambassador Trumpet
www.kalamazooconcertband.org

bockhaus

Thanks, and I have seen some of the same history as well as the picture on Horn-u-copia. I guess what I'm really looking for is a critique either from someone who has played them, or maybe some written critique from when they were made. Were they considered a pro horn? Intermediate? Were they well received by the trumpet players of the time? Are they still considered a decent find? I'd never heard of them before now, so would like to find a bit more in depth information if possible. Thanks again.

MFfan

Sorry to post stuff you already knew, but I had never heard of them either. Kind of interesting and they were apparently decent horns. Hopefully someone will have some experience with them, I would think our european members would be the most likely.

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Dave Rafferty
07 Barrington Trumpet, 1972 Reynolds Medalist
55 Besson 8-10 trumpet
55 Roth by Reynolds Cornet
73 Olds Ambassador Cornet
30's Czech small bore Trumpet
Getzen 80 cornet, 33 American Standard cornet
66 Olds Ambassador Trumpet
www.kalamazooconcertband.org

aspires

Is there an official definition, sound, feel or "official" dimensions that define a peashooter? I have a c. 1950's English Besson 10-10 that looks very peashootery compared to my Strad 37ML. It projects like all getout, super-light, and gladly goes from fat to bright. I've never played any models generally referred to as peashooters to compare... just curios what truly makes a horn a peashooter.

MFfan

Hi! you must have an interesting 10-10 if it looks like a peashooter. I have an 8-10 and have seen 10-10's. While they do seem to have a narrower wrap than some, it is certainly not a peashooter. My Czech small-bore has peashooter qualities in that has a narrow wrap, the single spitvalve is bigger relative to the tubing that regular wraps, has a very bright "paint Peeler" sound and dates in the 30's I believe. A number of makers put them out. Many had angled main tuming tubing some degress inward to compact the size. There have been other discussions on them. I would recommend going to ebay auction of a 1934 Conn Pan American Cornet (actually a trumpet) which has what I think it the classic pea shooter form. Many good photos to look at and very nice looking old horn. Item 180265373725. It was a different configuration of tubing. Check out the TM thread "Old York Stenciled Trumpet-an Thoughts" Identification? " started on 4-24-08

Turned out to be gorgeous York peashooter that I don't see the link on, but it was eventually put on ebay. If you come across any vintage Boston made Vega trumpets, many of those are peashooters. Many were also made as "stencils" for many retailers.

On ebay.ca there is a listine 220256078944 for a vintage King "The Gladiator" peashooter trumpet. That was a student line made in the 40's
I don't know of any set design as there seems have been a number of variations.

You can find a good example on the Conn loyalist site under the Pan American trumpet photo thread. There is a photo of PA 64B slender model 0.438 bore, made between 31-48. Design is similar to the New Era models (10B,56B, 58B, 609B) per Derksen's info.

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Dave Rafferty
07 Barrington Trumpet, 1972 Reynolds Medalist
55 Besson 8-10 trumpet
55 Roth by Reynolds Cornet
73 Olds Ambassador Cornet
30's Czech small bore Trumpet
Getzen 80 cornet, 33 American Standard cornet
66 Olds Ambassador Trumpet
www.kalamazooconcertband.org