Hurray for first vintage horn!

Sungman · 06-25-2009, 10:50 PM

Just won my very first vintage horn, a 1920's kings master
Vintage 1920's KING MASTER MODEL SILVER CORNET - eBay (item 160342948008 end time Jun-25-09 18:44:00 PDT)

Looks like it'll need some work done, but I'm happy

Anyone know of a good tech near southern Delaware? I live close of Salisbury too.

MFfan · 06-25-2009, 11:44 PM

congrats! I had see that one, but didn't want to take in a repair project. Hope you are lucky and the problems will be easily resolved.

ComeBackKid · 06-26-2009, 01:31 AM

It certainly looks like an interesting horn. I hope that you have a good repairman and that he can put it back in the condition that it deserves. Be sure to post some 'AFTER' photos and let us know how it plays once you are done. Also, if you can bring yourself to do it, maybe you could detail how much work it really takes to repair it so it can be a reference point for the rest of us that may be tempted to tackle such a project.
Good luck.

ChopsGone · 06-26-2009, 12:08 PM

It looks like it has a lot of possibilities. The bad repair work is a little more extensive than average, perhaps, but there's certainly nothing there that suggests it couldn't be fixed up nicely. And you started off on the right foot - getting the basic horn for a decent price. Congratulations. If you decide to do any cleaning, oiling, and testing before shipping it off to a restorer, please be very careful and gentle with those stuck caps and pistons. What you find inside the cylinders will have a huge influence on the total restoration cost.

Indian · 06-26-2009, 12:14 PM

Congrats on a great horn. It is definately worth getting the repairs done correctly especially at the price you got it for!!! I saw this one but did not want another as I have several H.N. White Master cornets. They are great players and have good slotting and intonation. They can be a little darker than some other cornets depending on vintage, bore and set up. I use a standard shank mouthpiece (Bach 5B) in mine and they work fine. They do not seem to need a short shank like the early Conns.

Sungman · 06-26-2009, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian

They do not seem to need a short shank like the early Conns.

Thanks for that info, I've been researching everywhere to see whether or not I would need a short shank.
I'm still looking around for some good techs. There are some music stores around but I still wanna expand my choices...

Ursa · 06-27-2009, 06:57 PM

Congratulationss, Sungman...looks like a neat old horn. Hope she turns out well for you.

Is this your first cornet?

Sungman · 06-27-2009, 09:48 PM

Yeah its my first cornet, I thought it be a better choice then a pocket trumpet

Sungman · 06-29-2009, 07:18 PM

Well, it just arrived in the mail today and i have to say it is in a much better then I expected.

Looks like it'll only needs a good flushing and a tiny work on the leadpipe. But the disgusting part is that the valves had mold on them! EWW

Anyways another question for any king master owners, what type of mouthpieces did you find to work best with this cornet? A v, c, or a vintage cup?

Sungman · 07-14-2009, 03:38 PM

Just got the cornet back, I only did some minor work, this thing is waaaaay too fun! I'll post the pictures later.

Also can anyone give me some info on a hn white 36 cornet mouthpiece?

06-25-2009, 10:50 PM	#1
Sungman Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Delaware Posts: 136	Hurray for first vintage horn! Just won my very first vintage horn, a 1920's kings master Vintage 1920's KING MASTER MODEL SILVER CORNET - eBay (item 160342948008 end time Jun-25-09 18:44:00 PDT) Looks like it'll need some work done, but I'm happy Anyone know of a good tech near southern Delaware? I live close of Salisbury too. __________________ Benge 90b-SP - Parduba 5 HJ 1920's King Master Cornet - HN. King Co. 36

06-25-2009, 11:44 PM	#2
MFfan Forte User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 1,673	Re: Hurray for first vintage horn! congrats! I had see that one, but didn't want to take in a repair project. Hope you are lucky and the problems will be easily resolved. __________________ Dave Rafferty Lemar Trumpet (peashooter-Conn?) Lyrical Trumpet (Tokan) Besson 609 Trumpet 1955-60 Besson 8-10 Trumpet 1948 Besson cornet 1946 King Master Cornet www.kalamazooconcertband.org

06-26-2009, 01:31 AM	#3
ComeBackKid Mezzo Forte User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Yorba Linda, CA Posts: 934	Re: Hurray for first vintage horn! It certainly looks like an interesting horn. I hope that you have a good repairman and that he can put it back in the condition that it deserves. Be sure to post some 'AFTER' photos and let us know how it plays once you are done. Also, if you can bring yourself to do it, maybe you could detail how much work it really takes to repair it so it can be a reference point for the rest of us that may be tempted to tackle such a project. Good luck. __________________ Come-Back Kid - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Selmer Invicta London (T) Olds SuperStar (T) Olds Super (2T) Olds Special (2T+C) Olds Ambassador (9T+7C) Andreas Eastman (2T) Conn Director (T+C) King Cleveland Superior (T+C) Holton (T602+C605 Shep Crk) Holton Collegiate (T+C) Blessing (T+C) Yamaha (T+C) (+Some others)

06-26-2009, 12:08 PM	#4
ChopsGone Piano User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 400	Re: Hurray for first vintage horn! It looks like it has a lot of possibilities. The bad repair work is a little more extensive than average, perhaps, but there's certainly nothing there that suggests it couldn't be fixed up nicely. And you started off on the right foot - getting the basic horn for a decent price. Congratulations. If you decide to do any cleaning, oiling, and testing before shipping it off to a restorer, please be very careful and gentle with those stuck caps and pistons. What you find inside the cylinders will have a huge influence on the total restoration cost. __________________ Vintage Olds and Reynolds, yes sir, yes sir, one gazoo full. Calicchios, Besson, Kanstul Bessons, Selmers, etc. F.E. forgive me, even a Bach Strad (but I like the others much better)

06-26-2009, 12:14 PM	#5
Indian Pianissimo User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 238	Re: Hurray for first vintage horn! Congrats on a great horn. It is definately worth getting the repairs done correctly especially at the price you got it for!!! I saw this one but did not want another as I have several H.N. White Master cornets. They are great players and have good slotting and intonation. They can be a little darker than some other cornets depending on vintage, bore and set up. I use a standard shank mouthpiece (Bach 5B) in mine and they work fine. They do not seem to need a short shank like the early Conns. __________________ Rob, King Liberty SilverTone (3) King Liberty (7) Super 20 (2) Conn Vocabell 40A - 40B - 80A (6) - 81A (1) - 38A Victor (2) - 22B - 16B, 12B Coprion bell Getzen Tone Balanced Super Deluxe Holton French LeBlanc (1) - Al Hirt 550 Olds Studio (1) - Special (1)

06-27-2009, 06:57 PM	#7
Ursa Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 182	Re: Hurray for first vintage horn! Congratulationss, Sungman...looks like a neat old horn. Hope she turns out well for you. Is this your first cornet? __________________ Ursa's collection of fine brasswinds... Besson BE709 Trumpet Conn 20B Trumpet - small bore E. K. Blessing XL-CR Short Cornet Frank Holton Super Collegiate Trumpet, Copper/Nickel bell Frank Holton Super Collegiate Cornet, Rose Brass/Nickel bell Frank Holton Collegiate Cornet Yamaha YEP-321S Euphonium Frank Holton 6/4 EEb Tuba

06-27-2009, 09:48 PM	#8
Sungman Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Delaware Posts: 136	Re: Hurray for first vintage horn! Yeah its my first cornet, I thought it be a better choice then a pocket trumpet __________________ Benge 90b-SP - Parduba 5 HJ 1920's King Master Cornet - HN. King Co. 36

06-29-2009, 07:18 PM	#9
Sungman Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Delaware Posts: 136	Re: Hurray for first vintage horn! Well, it just arrived in the mail today and i have to say it is in a much better then I expected. Looks like it'll only needs a good flushing and a tiny work on the leadpipe. But the disgusting part is that the valves had mold on them! EWW Anyways another question for any king master owners, what type of mouthpieces did you find to work best with this cornet? A v, c, or a vintage cup? __________________ Benge 90b-SP - Parduba 5 HJ 1920's King Master Cornet - HN. King Co. 36

07-14-2009, 03:38 PM	#10
Sungman Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Delaware Posts: 136	Re: Hurray for first vintage horn! Just got the cornet back, I only did some minor work, this thing is waaaaay too fun! I'll post the pictures later. Also can anyone give me some info on a hn white 36 cornet mouthpiece? __________________ Benge 90b-SP - Parduba 5 HJ 1920's King Master Cornet - HN. King Co. 36

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