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Old 06-30-2008, 05:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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If I were to look for a soaring vintage lead-trumpet....

What to look for?

When I do pop/jazz stuff, I nowadays use a very light weight NY Bach, but I've heard rumors of vintage Olds for instance- I don't know which model though.

Input on this i MOST apreciated!

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Old 06-30-2008, 07:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: If I were to look for a soaring vintage lead-trumpet....

The Olds Super Recording might be what you are thinking of.

Also the King Super 20, Ziggy Elman's choice.

Harry James used Selmer and then King trumpets.

The Conn Connstellation.

I'm sure there will be a lot more answers here.


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Old 06-30-2008, 08:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: If I were to look for a soaring vintage lead-trumpet....

my input would have you try a pre-UMI Benge, notice I said try we all have our own take on any horn we play. Dave
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Re: If I were to look for a soaring vintage lead-trumpet....

No need to spend the $$ on a super recording, although they are worth every penny, git yersef a vintage super, even one from the 60s will blow everyone off the bandstand!
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Re: If I were to look for a soaring vintage lead-trumpet....

I would look at the older Benge horns also, 3X and 3X+ were very popular, as well as the F. Besson Meha. There was a lot of variety of horns back then, everyone played something different and they all sounded great.
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Re: If I were to look for a soaring vintage lead-trumpet....

Hard to tell, what a "lead trumpet" really is.
In my opinion there is only a "lead trumpeter embouchure"
Guess you find lightweight, regulars and heavies as "lead trumpets".

I personally would prefer a regular weighted over a lightweight as a lead trumpet, because their better slotting and more centered sound.
Even I also play lead on my 1070 (ex-Meha) I see it more as a trumpet for soloing.

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Re: If I were to look for a soaring vintage lead-trumpet....

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everyone played something different and they all sounded great.
That is VERY true!!
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Re: If I were to look for a soaring vintage lead-trumpet....

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Hard to tell, what a "lead trumpet" really is.
In my opinion there is only a "lead trumpeter embouchure"
Guess you find lightweight, regulars and heavies as "lead trumpets".


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This is also true!

I have found myself doing quite a bit of pop/comercial work lately, and my Bach NY's (one kind of regular weight ,26 bell ML bore-one very light weight 37 bell ML) works VERY well.

But then there is this summer-gig in the amusement-park in town....!

3 trumpets, 3 trombones, 2 marching baritones, 1 sousaphone, 1drums+ 1perc. walking around in the park playing various pop/rock/jazz-stuff. (EWF, Sevie Wonder, etc.)

Let me tell you: NO gig is as hard work as this!!!!

3 hours of extreme dynamics and register kind of tells you if you have the right gear or not!! ( or lip for that matter....)

I've noticed that the 26 bell horn has a very nice sound, full of overtones.

The 37 bell horn also, but maybe a little brighter.

I've mostly played Bachs in my life, looking somewhat dumbfounded at comercial players talking about Olds, Kings and to some extent Benges.

So many players can't be wrong, though!!

So, what am I looking for?

NOT a horn that will do the job for me-there aren't any!

But maybe something that makes me come home to my my wife after the gig, kiss her, and actually FEEL IT!!!
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Re: If I were to look for a soaring vintage lead-trumpet....

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What to look for?

When I do pop/jazz stuff, I nowadays use a very light weight NY Bach, but I've heard rumors of vintage Olds for instance- I don't know which model though.

Input on this i MOST apreciated!

Cheers!
F.E. Olds put out a CHR, Custom High Range model. Read a review here:

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Re: If I were to look for a soaring vintage lead-trumpet....

I discovered recently that the type of horn I play can make a signficant difference to my endurance playing lead in a big band. I have played a Bach 37 ML all my life and one day I played a student model Holton trumpet on a four hour gig and found I had more stamina...actually it made the gig enjoyable rather than a marathon effort. It wasn't a heavy weight vs light weight situation as there is only 4% difference in weight between the two horns. Got me looking for a new horn.
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