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Old 01-29-2008, 07:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I began my playing career in an English Brass Band playing several loaned cornets until I got my own Besson. This instrument together with a deep cup mouthpiece gives the typical Brass Band sound which is pure and sweet. I am no longer in a band and have focused on small group jazz, nothing fancy just playing standards for instance in the style of Ruby Braff (hopefully). I began to feel that an American cornet would give me a more authentic sound and I eventually bought a Getzen Eterna with a copper bell, this is a fine instrument (particularly valvewise) but it is still a bit too much like my besson in sound quality even though I have gone to the extreme length of changing my mouthpiece to a slightly shallower model. I have begun to think that maybe the long model cornet is the way to go, Ruby Braff is holding a Bach Strad long model cornet on the cover of an album I have, however during correspondence with an American player and collector he has warned me against buying a Strad for this purpose. I would appreciate your comments, do you agree with him? is a model 37 better than a 52? can you recommend anything else?

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Re: Jazz cornet

I really love my Bach LB american model cornet for jazz stuff. I also just bought an 1886 Conn Wonder cornet (can't wait to get that!) but I prefer the American cornet for jazz over the Shephard's crooked models. Maybe my Conn (which is crooked :) will change my mind.

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I enjoyed your clips Austin, I forgot to mention that the main objection my friend had to the Strad was it's 'weak' upper register, comments please. his first three preferred cornets were: Martin committee, Holton and Olds super.
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The upper range on my Cornet is fantastic. I really like the Larger bore on the american model over the ML. I think that makes a big difference.

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Will you be posting clips with the Wonder? I'd really like to hear one being played by a pro. Looking forward to Friday's broadcast.
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I don't know what's wrong with a Strad long cornet. I've never played one I didn't like. Could be your friend just didn't click with them, but you should try a few locally if you can. They usually sell for a very reasonable price on eBay, if you're into that.

Most of the ones I've played have been ML bores, although I almost bought a large bore one back in the late 80's (couldn't agree on a price). I now own a large bore Strad 184 short model, which is a great cornet. The upper range requires a little more effort than I'd like, but that's probably due to the Wick 4B mouthpiece I use with it.

Disclaimer: I'm a brass band player, not a jazz player....

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Re: Jazz cornet

I have a Lawler large bore shepherd's crook Cornet and a medium large bore Selmer K-Modified Cornet.

The Lawler has a really big sound, but the Selmer has a sound that I think would be perfect for Jazz. Give one a blow, it's nice and mellow.
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Don't forget vintage horns either. The old Conn 80A is popular among jazz musicians for it's sound and feel. You can usually find one on Ebay for a couple of hundred. Spend some bucks spiffin it up, and you've got a real gem.
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