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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Peterborough England
Brand: Getzen
Posts: 11
| Jazz cornet I began my playing career in an English Brass Band playing several loaned cornets until I got my own Besson. This instrument together with a deep cup mouthpiece gives the typical Brass Band sound which is pure and sweet. I am no longer in a band and have focused on small group jazz, nothing fancy just playing standards for instance in the style of Ruby Braff (hopefully). I began to feel that an American cornet would give me a more authentic sound and I eventually bought a Getzen Eterna with a copper bell, this is a fine instrument (particularly valvewise) but it is still a bit too much like my besson in sound quality even though I have gone to the extreme length of changing my mouthpiece to a slightly shallower model. I have begun to think that maybe the long model cornet is the way to go, Ruby Braff is holding a Bach Strad long model cornet on the cover of an album I have, however during correspondence with an American player and collector he has warned me against buying a Strad for this purpose. I would appreciate your comments, do you agree with him? is a model 37 better than a 52? can you recommend anything else? Last edited by blower : 01-29-2008 at 07:42 AM. |
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Boston, MA
Brand: they have brand names? ;)
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![]() ![]() | Re: Jazz cornet I really love my Bach LB american model cornet for jazz stuff. I also just bought an 1886 Conn Wonder cornet (can't wait to get that!) but I prefer the American cornet for jazz over the Shephard's crooked models. Maybe my Conn (which is crooked :) will change my mind. Here's a clip of me playing the Bach... it's certianly not Ruby style but I enjoy getting "around" on the horn. Softly on Wedge 3A - Putfile.com |
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__________________ Trent Austin Yamaha LA, King Liberty, and some Vintage Conns (6A, 28A, 36B, 38B)...Wedge 3 series mouthpieces http://www.trentaustin.com http://www.onlinejazzimprovisation.com http://www.myspace.com/trentaustinmusic http://www.putfile.com/jazzmanta check out the new clips I added 6/11/08 http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZjazzmantaCleaning house... | |
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Peterborough England
Brand: Getzen
Posts: 11
| Re: Jazz cornet I enjoyed your clips Austin, I forgot to mention that the main objection my friend had to the Strad was it's 'weak' upper register, comments please. his first three preferred cornets were: Martin committee, Holton and Olds super. |
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Boston, MA
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![]() ![]() | Re: Jazz cornet The upper range on my Cornet is fantastic. I really like the Larger bore on the american model over the ML. I think that makes a big difference. -T |
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__________________ Trent Austin Yamaha LA, King Liberty, and some Vintage Conns (6A, 28A, 36B, 38B)...Wedge 3 series mouthpieces http://www.trentaustin.com http://www.onlinejazzimprovisation.com http://www.myspace.com/trentaustinmusic http://www.putfile.com/jazzmanta check out the new clips I added 6/11/08 http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZjazzmantaCleaning house... | |
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| Mezzo Piano User
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Heart of Dixie
Brand: Bach, vintage Conn
Posts: 636
| Re: Jazz cornet I don't know what's wrong with a Strad long cornet. I've never played one I didn't like. Could be your friend just didn't click with them, but you should try a few locally if you can. They usually sell for a very reasonable price on eBay, if you're into that. Most of the ones I've played have been ML bores, although I almost bought a large bore one back in the late 80's (couldn't agree on a price). I now own a large bore Strad 184 short model, which is a great cornet. The upper range requires a little more effort than I'd like, but that's probably due to the Wick 4B mouthpiece I use with it. Disclaimer: I'm a brass band player, not a jazz player.... Last edited by Dale Proctor : 01-31-2008 at 08:49 AM. |
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__________________ "Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away." - Sir Thomas Beecham Olde Towne Brass www.otbrass.com Brass Band of Huntsville www.brassbandofhuntsville.org | |
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: St Louis MO
Brand: Lawler T & Cornet
Posts: 32
| Re: Jazz cornet I have a Lawler large bore shepherd's crook Cornet and a medium large bore Selmer K-Modified Cornet. The Lawler has a really big sound, but the Selmer has a sound that I think would be perfect for Jazz. Give one a blow, it's nice and mellow. |
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| Mezzo Piano User
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Prescott Valley , AZ
Posts: 547
| Re: Jazz cornet Don't forget vintage horns either. The old Conn 80A is popular among jazz musicians for it's sound and feel. You can usually find one on Ebay for a couple of hundred. Spend some bucks spiffin it up, and you've got a real gem. |
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