Kanstul comes through

Darthsunshine · 01-21-2009, 02:10 AM

For those who are interested here's another testimonial about the nice work the folks at Kanstul do. My LA Benge C trumpet came back from Kanstul today, and it is amazing. The valve re-plate is perfect, with silky smooth action. My teacher gave it his seal of approval... well, as much as a Bach guy can. I also had it silver plated to match my Bb horn, and I'm very happy with the finnish too. I'm happy Zig agreed to take on the job, happy to have her back, and ready to put her to work. We've already put in some quality time together practicing our C trumpet solo for Akademische Festouverture in the community chamber orchestra. Oh, and thanks to all those who have written about Kanstul's nice work here before. Never would've known it was an option if I hadn't joined the site

Before:

After (Bb top/C bottom):

daniel starz · 01-21-2009, 02:53 AM

my son and i have a Benge ML #40989 Resno-Tempered bell #5 custom built by E-BENGE Los Angles ,Calif., silver Trumpet .
we got in a hundred dollar trade , i have put off getting it repaired ,Daniel has enough to play with for a while.
The local shop estimate is around 400.00$.
The bell is fine, the bell bend behind the first is a little crooked the brace is loose , the bell needs to come off the braces and dents taken out .
valves are ok slides has pop .
Glad to hear they will do repairs .

Darthsunshine · 01-21-2009, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel starz

my son and i have a Benge ML #40989 Resno-Tempered bell #5 custom built by E-BENGE Los Angles ,Calif., silver Trumpet .
we got in a hundred dollar trade , i have put off getting it repaired ,Daniel has enough to play with for a while.
The local shop estimate is around 400.00$.
The bell is fine, the bell bend behind the first is a little crooked the brace is loose , the bell needs to come off the braces and dents taken out .
valves are ok slides has pop .
Glad to hear they will do repairs .

Daniel:

The #5 is a top notch horn. If you're going to have dent work done on the bell you definitely want someone very good doing the work. I was hanging out at my tech's shop a couple weeks ago, and got to hold a detached LA Benge bell they had just finished fixing. I was stunned by how light it was: Like rice paper; SO thin and delicate.

daniel starz · 01-21-2009, 11:31 AM

Thank You Glen
i was not sure about the trumpet , but i knew the Benge name was good.
I traded a nice 300 silver Getzen cornet , i got on e-bay for 280.00 , The girl only had 200.00 and the Benge . I think the repairs scared her , today i will take photos and see if Kanstul can give me a idea on cost . Our local shop is very good and no doubt can fix it , but something about Zig doing the repair appeal's to me more . My son is not to concerned about it yet , his hands are busy he is happy with his cornet's.

bigtiny · 01-21-2009, 01:04 PM

If you got that 5x for $100 you got a good deal from the sound of it. Just from a purely financial standpoint, a 5x in good shape will generally fetch $900-$1200 depending on the particulars, the market at the time, etc.

If it's a horn you just LOVE to play, then, any reasonable investment is still going to put you ahead for a horn that you LOVE to play.

bigtiny

daniel starz · 01-21-2009, 02:05 PM

Thank You Bigtiny
i just got a e-mail from Rich Ita, BIW INC. WWW.brassintrumentsworkshop.com
Will be sending him photos ,for the estimate, hey do you know any with experience with his Pilczuk Accusonic Leadpipe ? It looks interesting.
The next thing to do is send photos to Kanstul see what they think .

bigtiny · 01-21-2009, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel starz

Thank You Bigtiny
i just got a e-mail from Rich Ita, BIW INC. WWW.brassintrumentsworkshop.com
Will be sending him photos ,for the estimate, hey do you know any with experience with his Pilczuk Accusonic Leadpipe ? It looks interesting.
The next thing to do is send photos to Kanstul see what they think .

I don't know anything about the Pilcauk. I've seen posts where people talk about them. I can also recommend Jim Becker at Osmun instruments in Arlington Mass. I know that's a long way for you. But Jim is really good. I just dropped my 1965 3x+ this morning for a full valve replating and piston rebore. I can't wait until he gets it done!

bigtiny

daniel starz · 01-21-2009, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtiny

I don't know anything about the Pilcauk. I've seen posts where people talk about them. I can also recommend Jim Becker at Osmun instruments in Arlington Mass. I know that's a long way for you. But Jim is really good. I just dropped my 1965 3x+ this morning for a full valve replating and piston rebore. I can't wait until he gets it done!

bigtiny

i got the quote back from BIW INC. 200.00 $ thats half of my local shop ! includes, dent removal ,chem clean ,valve lineament, polish.
BIW, Inc.
i wonder if any one else has experience with them .

i talked with Jim at Osmun Instruments ,He will look at the photos on friday .

next stop Kanstul see what they say about my repair . the benge plays and sounds ok for being sat on , but that is my poor ears .

daniel starz · 01-21-2009, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtiny

If you got that 5x for $100 you got a good deal from the sound of it. Just from a purely financial standpoint, a 5x in good shape will generally fetch $900-$1200 depending on the particulars, the market at the time, etc.

If it's a horn you just LOVE to play, then, any reasonable investment is still going to put you ahead for a horn that you LOVE to play.

bigtiny

Bigtiny , Darthsunshine
hey you know you got me started on this repair , well and the "kanstul comes though"
Osmun has a pair of Benge #5 s for sale at 1095 .00 ,, thanks for the tip ! Michael ,Daniels dad

daniel starz · 01-22-2009, 03:46 AM

Darthsunshine , Bigtiny
this is the benge #5

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3496/...11da8a.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3303/...6d83f6.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3376/...8ce6ab.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3442/...46163f.jpg?v=0

you can see the brace is off , bell crook is damaged , 2nd valve brace is broke , i like them to pull the bell , the lead pipe is ok , bell is fine i think ?

more later

01-21-2009, 02:10 AM	#1
Darthsunshine Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 551	Kanstul comes through For those who are interested here's another testimonial about the nice work the folks at Kanstul do. My LA Benge C trumpet came back from Kanstul today, and it is amazing. The valve re-plate is perfect, with silky smooth action. My teacher gave it his seal of approval... well, as much as a Bach guy can. I also had it silver plated to match my Bb horn, and I'm very happy with the finnish too. I'm happy Zig agreed to take on the job, happy to have her back, and ready to put her to work. We've already put in some quality time together practicing our C trumpet solo for Akademische Festouverture in the community chamber orchestra. Oh, and thanks to all those who have written about Kanstul's nice work here before. Never would've known it was an option if I hadn't joined the site Before: After (Bb top/C bottom): __________________ Glen Ferguson 1977 LA Benge 3C 1976 LA Benge 3X+ 1972 LA Benge 5x 1963 Burbank Benge Eb/D 1959 Olds Amb. cornet w/ Getzen shep crook bell

01-21-2009, 02:53 AM	#2
daniel starz Piano User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: wasilla alaska Posts: 342	Re: Kanstul comes through my son and i have a Benge ML #40989 Resno-Tempered bell #5 custom built by E-BENGE Los Angles ,Calif., silver Trumpet . we got in a hundred dollar trade , i have put off getting it repaired ,Daniel has enough to play with for a while. The local shop estimate is around 400.00$. The bell is fine, the bell bend behind the first is a little crooked the brace is loose , the bell needs to come off the braces and dents taken out . valves are ok slides has pop . Glad to hear they will do repairs . __________________ trumpets getzen artist sterling silver besson international 800 usa benge 5x cornets getzen 80 power bore getzen tone balance getzen copra temp getzen 580 s capri 53 olds super 54 olds recording

01-21-2009, 02:05 PM	#6
daniel starz Piano User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: wasilla alaska Posts: 342	Re: Kanstul comes through Thank You Bigtiny i just got a e-mail from Rich Ita, BIW INC. WWW.brassintrumentsworkshop.com Will be sending him photos ,for the estimate, hey do you know any with experience with his Pilczuk Accusonic Leadpipe ? It looks interesting. The next thing to do is send photos to Kanstul see what they think . __________________ trumpets getzen artist sterling silver besson international 800 usa benge 5x cornets getzen 80 power bore getzen tone balance getzen copra temp getzen 580 s capri 53 olds super 54 olds recording

01-22-2009, 03:46 AM	#10
daniel starz Piano User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: wasilla alaska Posts: 342	Re: Kanstul comes through Darthsunshine , Bigtiny this is the benge #5 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3496/...11da8a.jpg?v=0 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3303/...6d83f6.jpg?v=0 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3376/...8ce6ab.jpg?v=0 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3442/...46163f.jpg?v=0 you can see the brace is off , bell crook is damaged , 2nd valve brace is broke , i like them to pull the bell , the lead pipe is ok , bell is fine i think ? more later __________________ trumpets getzen artist sterling silver besson international 800 usa benge 5x cornets getzen 80 power bore getzen tone balance getzen copra temp getzen 580 s capri 53 olds super 54 olds recording Last edited by daniel starz; 01-22-2009 at 04:04 AM. Reason: opps

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01-21-2009, 11:31 AM	#4
daniel starz Piano User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: wasilla alaska Posts: 342	Re: Kanstul comes through Thank You Glen i was not sure about the trumpet , but i knew the Benge name was good. I traded a nice 300 silver Getzen cornet , i got on e-bay for 280.00 , The girl only had 200.00 and the Benge . I think the repairs scared her , today i will take photos and see if Kanstul can give me a idea on cost . Our local shop is very good and no doubt can fix it , but something about Zig doing the repair appeal's to me more . My son is not to concerned about it yet , his hands are busy he is happy with his cornet's. __________________ trumpets getzen artist sterling silver besson international 800 usa benge 5x cornets getzen 80 power bore getzen tone balance getzen copra temp getzen 580 s capri 53 olds super 54 olds recording

01-21-2009, 01:04 PM	#5
bigtiny Piano User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 444	Re: Kanstul comes through If you got that 5x for $100 you got a good deal from the sound of it. Just from a purely financial standpoint, a 5x in good shape will generally fetch $900-$1200 depending on the particulars, the market at the time, etc. If it's a horn you just LOVE to play, then, any reasonable investment is still going to put you ahead for a horn that you LOVE to play. bigtiny

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