Welcome to TrumpetMaster.com

You are currently viewing our trumpet site as a guest, which gives you limited access to many features. By joining our community you will be able to post topics in our trumpet forum, place ads in our classifieds, add your upcoming event to our calendar, communicate privately with other members (PM), and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free!

We hope you will join our community today!


Go Back   TrumpetMaster > Equipment > Vintage Trumpets / Cornets


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 05-22-2008, 10:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
russiet@wildblue.net
New Friend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 4
russiet@wildblue.net will become famous soon enough
King Silver Sonic

Can some one give me an idea of how much this is worth? For that matter, is anyone interested in buying this? I'm an old trombone player that has tried to play trumpet infrequently at best.

The SN on the middle vale is "410969", and underneath that is "DB".

I acquired this used King trumpet from a friend back in 1972. It's been pretty much stored in it's case since then. The finish is beat, but there are no dents. The bell is silver plated. The only thing that won't move is the threaded valve cap on the bottom of the middle valve. No doubt that can be freed with the right technique.

It's not doing anyone any good being stored. I don't know the value of the horn, but I figure some one here will be able to help.

Would a picture help?

Thanks
russiet@wildblue.net is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2008, 04:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
MFfan
Mezzo Piano User
 
MFfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan
Posts: 579
MFfan will become famous soon enough
Send a message via MSN to MFfan Send a message via Yahoo to MFfan
Re: King Silver Sonic

Looks like you have a decent trumpet that someone would want. The serial number dates it to 1965 or so, not in the best years of Silversonic horns, according to many. I would go to Ebay and use their advanced search function, closed auctions, to find out what they have been going for if there have been listings of similar vintage horns. I checked ebay and ddin't find any record of auctions involving your vintage horn. You might want to go to the King co site H N White Company Makers of King Band Instruments 1893-1965 to make sure if you have a Silversonic or a Silver Flair. Also , check with www.horn-u-copia and scroll down to the White thread for more info.
It would be difficult to judge the value with the factors involved. Pictures would help. You might consider listing it in the Marketplace her or the Trumpetherald site classifieds. I'm sure the forum's King buffs will post on this.
__________________
Dave Rafferty
07 Barrington Trumpet
55 Besson 8-10 trumpet
52-55? Roth by Reynolds Cornet
73 Olds Ambassador Cornet
? Czech small bore Trumpet
Getzen 80 cornet
66 Olds Ambassador Trumpet
www.kalamazooconcertband.org
MFfan is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2008, 04:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
russiet@wildblue.net
New Friend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 4
russiet@wildblue.net will become famous soon enough
Re: King Silver Sonic

Thanks for all the information. I'll shoot a few pictures and post back this weekend. The engraving on the bell is a little hard to read, but it might say "Super Symphony" followed by "Silver Sonic" in blockier lettering. Definetly NH White.

I'm not looking to score big, I just don't want to give it away too cheap.

Jon

Last edited by russiet@wildblue.net; 05-22-2008 at 04:36 PM.
russiet@wildblue.net is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2008, 01:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
Scooter01
New Friend
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 48
Scooter01 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: King Silver Sonic

You have a King Super 20 Symphony and the bell is Sterling Silver not silver plated. SilverSonic bells were always solid Sterling. The DB refers to Dual Bore. The trumpet has a .458 bore at the second valve and .468 starting at the bell. If the engraving is difficult to read it may have been over buffed by someone trying to either remove the lacquer or polish it for a brighter finish. The lead pipe is also usually Sterling Silver and the rest of the instrument is brass. These were also available with a brass bell and thus would not have SilverSonic engraved on the bell. It should also have a first valve slide ring opposed to a saddle. Harry James played a modified version of this horn with the valves moved forward (balanced model) and a larger bore. I believe his was a .460 - .470 instead of the standard .458 - .468. Value fluctuates depending on condition and vintage (time it was made). Ebay generally has one or more of these from time to time and you can do a history search to find one in similar condition and thus a gage for how much you may be able fetch if you decide to sell.
Scooter01 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2008, 01:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
russiet@wildblue.net
New Friend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 4
russiet@wildblue.net will become famous soon enough
Re: King Silver Sonic

Fantastic.! Thanks for the information. When I found this forum yesterday, I knew it was the right place to inquire.

The lacquer has lifted off in a couple of small patches over the engraving, making it hard to read.

Yes, it does have a first valve slide ring.

I also believe the lead pipe is silver as well.

Thanks again,

Jon
russiet@wildblue.net is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2008, 07:42 AM   #6 (permalink)
russiet@wildblue.net
New Friend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 4
russiet@wildblue.net will become famous soon enough
Re: King Silver Sonic



There are several other images here:

russiet/King Trumpet - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

Last edited by russiet@wildblue.net; 05-27-2008 at 03:33 PM.
russiet@wildblue.net is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2008, 08:19 AM   #7 (permalink)
MFfan
Mezzo Piano User
 
MFfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan
Posts: 579
MFfan will become famous soon enough
Send a message via MSN to MFfan Send a message via Yahoo to MFfan
Re: King Silver Sonic

Thanks for the photo. Nice horn, as you said. There is one on ebay now, Item 28022895037 that the seller, usedinstrumentwarehouse is asking US $1643.45 or best offer. Finish on this one looks very good. Wish I could afford yours. Hope it gets into appreciative hands!
__________________
Dave Rafferty
07 Barrington Trumpet
55 Besson 8-10 trumpet
52-55? Roth by Reynolds Cornet
73 Olds Ambassador Cornet
? Czech small bore Trumpet
Getzen 80 cornet
66 Olds Ambassador Trumpet
www.kalamazooconcertband.org
MFfan is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2008, 08:56 AM   #8 (permalink)
A.N.A. Mendez
Mezzo Piano User
 
A.N.A. Mendez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 604
A.N.A. Mendez will become famous soon enough
Re: King Silver Sonic

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooter01 View Post
You have a King Super 20 Symphony and the bell is Sterling Silver not silver plated. SilverSonic bells were always solid Sterling. The DB refers to Dual Bore. The trumpet has a .458 bore at the second valve and .468 starting at the bell. If the engraving is difficult to read it may have been over buffed by someone trying to either remove the lacquer or polish it for a brighter finish. The lead pipe is also usually Sterling Silver and the rest of the instrument is brass. These were also available with a brass bell and thus would not have SilverSonic engraved on the bell. It should also have a first valve slide ring opposed to a saddle. Harry James played a modified version of this horn with the valves moved forward (balanced model) and a larger bore. I believe his was a .460 - .470 instead of the standard .458 - .468. Value fluctuates depending on condition and vintage (time it was made). Ebay generally has one or more of these from time to time and you can do a history search to find one in similar condition and thus a gage for how much you may be able fetch if you decide to sell.
Is this the REAL Scooter?
__________________
(Above) Alexanders ragtime band-circa 1960

"Baby, I'm already the coolest, and the hippist, now you want me to be on time too?" Buddy Love

"We appointed all our worst generals to command our armies, and our best generals to edit our newspapers." Robert E. Lee
A.N.A. Mendez is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Silver Custom Crafted OLDS trumpet with Ultra Sonic Lead P. study888 Vintage Trumpets / Cornets 21 03-11-2007 11:48 PM
NEED HELP - King Super 20 Silver Sonic brendan Vintage Trumpets / Cornets 10 05-11-2006 07:31 PM
Benge Silver Sonic bigaggietrumpet Horns 5 11-22-2004 10:46 AM


Unleash Your Anger

TrumpetMaster
Copyright 2006 TrumpetMaster.com
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:34 AM.

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v2.2.0/Links 1.01
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33