King Silversonic Cornet

GordonH · 08-24-2005, 04:33 PM

I just bought one sight unseen and am having it sent to me.
Its coming from a good dealer and I know its in reasonable condition.

Does anyone have any experience or knowledge of these?

e.g. the Bb/A change mechanism looks a bit weird. I have seen it on other King cornets of the period.

topo3man · 08-26-2005, 10:22 PM

I've owned two Silversonic cornets over the years. They are great horns. What would you like to know about them?

GordonH · 08-27-2005, 03:13 AM

Hello
Is that knurled mechanism on hte tuning slide a lock of some sort?
I thought it was some sort of Bb/A changer but it just seems to be a lock.

The cornet arrived but I have now sent it off to be fixed. It needs new water keys mainly as someone had badly fitted amado's to it.

It sounds very good, just what I was needing for playing traditional jazz on.

topo3man · 08-27-2005, 07:50 AM

The way the microtuning mechanism works is that you can can make very fine adjustments to the tuning slide by rotating the knob. If you want to go to A you just pull the tuning slide out all the way and viola.

topo3man · 08-27-2005, 07:53 AM

Come to think of it, the microtuning mechanism differed in the early years. I have seen some early horns that appear to round lock on the slide instead of the microtuning "collar". What is the serial number of your horn?

GordonH · 08-27-2005, 08:15 AM

OK, that makes sense.

I have forgotten the serial number but I think its about 1969 vintage. I looked up the serial number when i had the instrument in front of me.
The Bell engraving is much more old fashioned though.

I have some photos I will upload later.

GordonH · 08-27-2005, 08:43 AM

Some pictures:

http://www.hudson.nu/trumpet/king-si...ic-cornet.html

The integrity of the instrument is fine, only two tiny dents and the valves are tight. It just needs the water keys and receiver fixed.

topo3man · 08-28-2005, 08:33 PM

GordonH,
That cornet looks like a Super 20 Silversonic (due to the first valve trigger). If it is a 1969 horn, the serial number would be in the 4XX,XXX and it would be made by King at it's Eastlake Ohio address rather than HN White's original Cleveland Ohio address.

GordonH · 08-29-2005, 01:52 AM

Its a 3xx,xxx serial number and it says Cleveland Ohio on the Bell.

Maybe its earlier than 69.
I got that from a list somewhere on the net.

I should have taken a picture of the engraving.

topo3man · 08-29-2005, 08:17 AM

GordonH, I would say early to mid-sixties. This is a great horn. It is virtually impossible to overblow a Sterling bell. It has a very nice pure tone. Does the bell engraving have Super 20 as well as Silversonic on it?

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GordonH Mezzo Piano User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 600	King Silversonic Cornet I just bought one sight unseen and am having it sent to me. Its coming from a good dealer and I know its in reasonable condition. Does anyone have any experience or knowledge of these? e.g. the Bb/A change mechanism looks a bit weird. I have seen it on other King cornets of the period.

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08-26-2005, 10:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
topo3man Pianissimo User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 50	I've owned two Silversonic cornets over the years. They are great horns. What would you like to know about them?

08-27-2005, 03:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
GordonH Mezzo Piano User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 600	Hello Is that knurled mechanism on hte tuning slide a lock of some sort? I thought it was some sort of Bb/A changer but it just seems to be a lock. The cornet arrived but I have now sent it off to be fixed. It needs new water keys mainly as someone had badly fitted amado's to it. It sounds very good, just what I was needing for playing traditional jazz on.

08-27-2005, 07:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
topo3man Pianissimo User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 50	The way the microtuning mechanism works is that you can can make very fine adjustments to the tuning slide by rotating the knob. If you want to go to A you just pull the tuning slide out all the way and viola.

08-27-2005, 07:53 AM	#5 (permalink)
topo3man Pianissimo User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 50	Come to think of it, the microtuning mechanism differed in the early years. I have seen some early horns that appear to round lock on the slide instead of the microtuning "collar". What is the serial number of your horn?

08-27-2005, 08:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
GordonH Mezzo Piano User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 600	OK, that makes sense. I have forgotten the serial number but I think its about 1969 vintage. I looked up the serial number when i had the instrument in front of me. The Bell engraving is much more old fashioned though. I have some photos I will upload later.

08-27-2005, 08:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
GordonH Mezzo Piano User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 600	Some pictures: http://www.hudson.nu/trumpet/king-si...ic-cornet.html The integrity of the instrument is fine, only two tiny dents and the valves are tight. It just needs the water keys and receiver fixed.

08-28-2005, 08:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
topo3man Pianissimo User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 50	GordonH, That cornet looks like a Super 20 Silversonic (due to the first valve trigger). If it is a 1969 horn, the serial number would be in the 4XX,XXX and it would be made by King at it's Eastlake Ohio address rather than HN White's original Cleveland Ohio address.

08-29-2005, 01:52 AM	#9 (permalink)
GordonH Mezzo Piano User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 600	Its a 3xx,xxx serial number and it says Cleveland Ohio on the Bell. Maybe its earlier than 69. I got that from a list somewhere on the net. I should have taken a picture of the engraving.

08-29-2005, 08:17 AM	#10 (permalink)
topo3man Pianissimo User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 50	GordonH, I would say early to mid-sixties. This is a great horn. It is virtually impossible to overblow a Sterling bell. It has a very nice pure tone. Does the bell engraving have Super 20 as well as Silversonic on it?

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