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Old 07-15-2009, 04:27 PM   #1
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which Olds are higher quality?

I have been searching for the thread that describes the various models of the Olds trumpets. I believe the Ambassador was the "student" horn but I wonder which models come next. Is the recording better than the super etc.
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Re: which Olds are higher quality?

You should check out Olds Central and read over the catalogs and price lists posted. You'll get all your answers. Olds Central: Information on trumpets and cornets by F. E Olds and Son 1928-1979
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Re: which Olds are higher quality?

As a general rule of thumb it goes.

Ambassador
Special
Studio
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Recording

But......Different people like different 'Best' models
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Re: which Olds are higher quality?

There's a debate on the Recording and the Mendez as to which is the better horn. Also, no ones mnetioned the Opera.
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Re: which Olds are higher quality?

There are many that consider the Super to be the best all-around playing model regardless of how Olds positioned them. The Recording has the valve block moved farther forward and also the 2nd valve is offset from the other two so it has some unique features but some do not consider those features to make it more playable than the Super. There are also some other - less well-known - models that don't really fit well into the hierarchy of the models mentioned above but they are very playable, too. In fact, I do not personally know of an Olds model that is not a great playing trumpet. They are built hell-for-stout, too.

P.S. This may be the thread that you were looking for:
http://www.trumpetmaster.com/vb/f140...per-46308.html (What do you think of this Olds Super?)
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Re: which Olds are higher quality?

Whichever you find the best for you comes soley down to personal preference.
Myself I want one of each.....
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Re: which Olds are higher quality?

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There are many that consider the Super to be the best all-around playing model regardless of how Olds positioned them. The Recording has the valve block moved farther forward and also the 2nd valve is offset from the other two so it has some unique features but some do not consider those features to make it more playable than the Super. There are also some other - less well-known - models that don't really fit well into the hierarchy of the models mentioned above but they are very playable, too. In fact, I do not personally know of an Olds model that is not a great playing trumpet. They are built hell-for-stout, too.

P.S. This may be the thread that you were looking for:
http://www.trumpetmaster.com/vb/f140...per-46308.html (What do you think of this Olds Super?)
Thanks, that was the one I was thinking of. Going to save it this time. This question will surely come up again, and again, ad infinitum.
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There's a debate on the Recording and the Mendez as to which is the better horn. Also, no ones mnetioned the Opera.
Ahem,
The Mendez is ,IMNSHO, one of the best all around horns made, it goes anywhere and will fit into any style. Some (who may or may not have ever spent any time with one) have tried to claim it is a glorified Ambassador with extra junk on it. No, it is a very fine player, rather than drag down the Mendez model I think this comparison lends more weight to the much discussed Ambassador being in most cases a very good playing horn.
I think the recording, aside from being one of the most beautiful trumpets ever made, has gotten shoved into the "dark and jazzy" corner. They can do just about anything well. In the more vintage models I have noticed more of a bright quality than in the last ones made which have more density in the sound.
Ah, the opera....A large bore monster, beautiful rich tone, broad sound, light feel.

Sigh........They aren't making any more of any of them.....
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Re: which Olds are higher quality?

And in the list of Olds horns I did not see mentioned the Super Recording!
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And in the list of Olds horns I did not see mentioned the Super Recording!
Nobody can find one of those......
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