Recommendation for Vintage Cornets - Page 2

rowuk · 10-10-2009, 10:40 AM

If you use a vee cup mouthpiece you have a darker tone and good flexibility. Using C cup mouthpieces makes the cornet more "trumpet like".
The issue with vintage horns is what you have to invest to make them "pro quality" again. Sometimes a newer horn like a Boosey&Hawkes, Taylor or Smith/Watkins is a better, more playable alternative.

Indian · 10-10-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rowuk

If you use a vee cup mouthpiece you have a darker tone and good flexibility. Using C cup mouthpieces makes the cornet more "trumpet like".
The issue with vintage horns is what you have to invest to make them "pro quality" again. Sometimes a newer horn like a Boosey&Hawkes, Taylor or Smith/Watkins is a better, more playable alternative.

Some vintage horns may need a little work but it is still easy to find them in near mint condition for a fraction of the cost of a lower quality new cornet. I have a couple King masters made in the 1940s and both are in excellent near mint condition. The valve plating is excellent and both horns have some of the fastest and smoothest action of any horn I've played. If copying is the sincerest form of flattery then that explains why Conn chose to copy the King Master as their top end cornet. I would expect other horns like the Buescher to show up in a list of "Best Cornet" but I think the Master would also be in most of those lists also. PS - I paid less than $100,00 for each of my Masters. Keep looking and you can find one also ... GOOD LUCK !!!

bobd0 · 10-10-2009, 12:35 PM

I'll second Tom's Buescher on looks alone.

Did anyone mention Holton yet? I had an early 50's Holton Model 29 that was every inch a pro-level cornet. Dark tone, easy to bend notes (as the guitarist in me would say).

oldlou · 10-10-2009, 05:08 PM

Another viable candidate would be something like my 1920 made Holton Clark Model extended cornet. It is definately a sweet one.

OLDLOU>>

jerec576 · 10-10-2009, 06:55 PM

What about the Conn long series cornets (i.e. 28A)? They do not appear to be true cornets but the option is there

jerec576 · 10-10-2009, 07:00 PM

Was looking at a King Super 20 Master Model, could anyone tell me anything about them?

VetPsychWars · 10-10-2009, 08:05 PM

I think older Holton horns in general are vastly underrated. I've been sort of looking for a Holton 48 but hesitate because it'll be fabulous like by grandfather's Buescher 400, and why do I need two fabulous horns?

Tom

jerec576 · 10-10-2009, 10:14 PM

it is also very difficult to find vintage holton horns.

A.N.A. Mendez · 10-11-2009, 12:02 AM

I love my late 40s Holton Collegiate

Ursa · 10-11-2009, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by A.N.A. Mendez

I love my late 40s Holton Collegiate

I love my '60s Collegiate and Super Collegiate cornets and would generally recommend them to anyone...but the original poster is looking for a horn without tight slotting. The Holtons I have both slot tightly, and the tone is on the bright side of the cornet tonal spectrum. They're probably not what the OP is looking for.

10-10-2009, 10:40 AM	#11
rowuk Moderator Utimate User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 7,364	Re: Recommendation for Vintage Cornets If you use a vee cup mouthpiece you have a darker tone and good flexibility. Using C cup mouthpieces makes the cornet more "trumpet like". The issue with vintage horns is what you have to invest to make them "pro quality" again. Sometimes a newer horn like a Boosey&Hawkes, Taylor or Smith/Watkins is a better, more playable alternative. __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

10-10-2009, 12:35 PM	#13
bobd0 Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 70	Re: Recommendation for Vintage Cornets I'll second Tom's Buescher on looks alone. Did anyone mention Holton yet? I had an early 50's Holton Model 29 that was every inch a pro-level cornet. Dark tone, easy to bend notes (as the guitarist in me would say).

10-10-2009, 05:08 PM	#14
oldlou Forte User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi. Posts: 1,242	Re: Recommendation for Vintage Cornets Another viable candidate would be something like my 1920 made Holton Clark Model extended cornet. It is definately a sweet one. OLDLOU>> __________________ Couturier trumpet York Master Model trumpet York Elite trumpet York Airflow cornet King super 20 Master Model cornet King Liberty trumpet Reynolds Professional cornet Bohm & Meinl professional trumpet Besson 10-10 trumpet with Holton M.F. bell Olds Special cornet Los Angeles B&H Sovereign cornet G.R.Band Instr. cornet Getzen Super Deluxe trumpet and cornet Getzen Deluxe trumpet and cornet Many others no room to list

10-10-2009, 06:55 PM	#15
jerec576 Pianissimo User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 128	Re: Recommendation for Vintage Cornets What about the Conn long series cornets (i.e. 28A)? They do not appear to be true cornets but the option is there __________________ Schilke X3 : Monette B5P

10-10-2009, 07:00 PM	#16
jerec576 Pianissimo User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 128	Re: Recommendation for Vintage Cornets Was looking at a King Super 20 Master Model, could anyone tell me anything about them? __________________ Schilke X3 : Monette B5P

10-10-2009, 08:05 PM	#17
VetPsychWars Piano User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Greenfield WI Posts: 263	Re: Recommendation for Vintage Cornets I think older Holton horns in general are vastly underrated. I've been sort of looking for a Holton 48 but hesitate because it'll be fabulous like by grandfather's Buescher 400, and why do I need two fabulous horns? Tom __________________ 1949 Buescher 400 Trumpet 1939, 1946 Buescher Aristocrat Trumpets 1955 Buescher 400 Cornet Meeuwsen custom 5C-ish mouthpiece Milwaukee Metropolitan Community Concert Band

10-10-2009, 10:14 PM	#18
jerec576 Pianissimo User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 128	Re: Recommendation for Vintage Cornets it is also very difficult to find vintage holton horns. __________________ Schilke X3 : Monette B5P

10-11-2009, 12:02 AM	#19
A.N.A. Mendez Forte User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,246	Re: Recommendation for Vintage Cornets I love my late 40s Holton Collegiate __________________ (Above) Alexanders ragtime band-circa 1960 "Baby, I'm already the coolest, and the hippist, now you want me to be on time too?" Buddy Love "We appointed all our worst generals to command our armies, and our best generals to edit our newspapers." Robert E. Lee

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