Ruddy Muck

nowherenearadouble · 12-08-2003, 05:30 PM

Does anyone have any information on Ruddy Muck Trumpets?
Thanks
Alan

davidjohnson · 12-09-2003, 04:49 AM

i recall that a well-known trumpet maker worked at rudy muck early in his career...don't know who. 'twas a big name, though.
i have a rudy muck mpc, the plating's worn off..it's like the proverbial 'bored-out dime'...very shallow.

dj

Leatherlip · 12-11-2003, 08:40 AM

Ah Ha, The Well Known Trumpet Maker was Domenick Calicchio, who started working for Rudy Muck in 1923 in N.Y. Calicchio went on to start his own line of mouthpieces and horns shortly after. I also have a hand made "Cushion Rim Dime" with a hole in it marked 16 S. Its fun.

Regards
Bill

alanbach · 12-11-2003, 09:20 AM

Hi ...I was given a 13c Rudy Muck mouthpiece just recently...marked "Made in England" ...like a peashooter!! Check out these two websites... one in the UK and one in the States http://www.bill-lewington.com/rudymuck.htm http://www.grandcanyontuberadio.com/...outhpieces.htm
Please note the difference in the prices!!

dmb · 12-12-2003, 10:33 PM

"Rudy was a professional trumpet player in New York City during the 1920's and 1930's. He established his company in 1930 and built Custom rim mouthpieces starting in 1932. He operated in New York City from 1930-1950
Rudy Muck worked with Vincent Bach at the Bach factory building the famous Bach NY trumpets. Then, Rudy opened a shop right next door to the Bach NY factory and, with the help of V.Bach, built the Rudy Muck Citation, which is an exact copy of the Bach New York, made with some NY Bach parts." http://mytrumpets.info/muck_info.html

More info: http://www.neillins.com/TR050.htm

I bought a Rudy Muck 'Conductor' model awhile back and sold it a few months later for 3 times the amount I paid for it. (I wish I had kept that horn) It didn't play the best but it was a beaute. (a valve job would have done wonders I'm sure)
The Academy model was the student horn. Next in line is the Contuctor. Then the Citation (these seem to be more sought after than the others) He also made the Balanced model which I'm guessing was his top of the line horn.
High quality craftsmanship and detailing were obviously important to Rudy Muck.

Dan Burton

nowherenearadouble · 12-13-2003, 02:01 PM

Thanks for the posts.
I have a friend that is selling his balanced model. I played it a while back, alot like an Olds Recording.
Does anyone know an approx value?
Thanks
Alan

dmb · 12-14-2003, 01:19 PM

nowherenear, you might email this guy: robert_adams@mytrumpets.info. His sight is where I got the info in my previous post. He has pics and talks about his Balanced model here: http://mytrumpets.info/_trumpets.html. He may be able to help you.

Dan Burton

azerba · 12-21-2003, 10:29 PM

You got some good answers there in the form. The first time I ever heard of Rudy Muck horns was when I was a teenager and these horns were sold in the "Diamond Book," a wholesale catalog out of Chicago. In 1989 when I joined "The American Barvarian Brass," out of Beaumount, CA. I meet a studio muscian out of LA who played a bright silver citation, if I remember right it weighed about 2.5 to 2.75 lbs a heavier than my 65 Getzen Eterna, and to me it was not as free blowing as the Eterna, the it sounded good and the valve response was excellent and that is all I can remeber about the horn.

12-08-2003, 05:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
nowherenearadouble Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 69	Ruddy Muck Does anyone have any information on Ruddy Muck Trumpets? Thanks Alan

12-11-2003, 08:40 AM	#3 (permalink)
Leatherlip New Friend Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 12	Ah Ha, The Well Known Trumpet Maker was Domenick Calicchio, who started working for Rudy Muck in 1923 in N.Y. Calicchio went on to start his own line of mouthpieces and horns shortly after. I also have a hand made "Cushion Rim Dime" with a hole in it marked 16 S. Its fun. Regards Bill
Leatherlip New Friend Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 12

12-11-2003, 09:20 AM	#4 (permalink)
alanbach Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: South Wales U.K. Posts: 159	Hi ...I was given a 13c Rudy Muck mouthpiece just recently...marked "Made in England" ...like a peashooter!! Check out these two websites... one in the UK and one in the States http://www.bill-lewington.com/rudymuck.htm http://www.grandcanyontuberadio.com/...outhpieces.htm Please note the difference in the prices!!
	__________________ Alan

12-12-2003, 10:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
dmb New Friend Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 36	"Rudy was a professional trumpet player in New York City during the 1920's and 1930's. He established his company in 1930 and built Custom rim mouthpieces starting in 1932. He operated in New York City from 1930-1950 Rudy Muck worked with Vincent Bach at the Bach factory building the famous Bach NY trumpets. Then, Rudy opened a shop right next door to the Bach NY factory and, with the help of V.Bach, built the Rudy Muck Citation, which is an exact copy of the Bach New York, made with some NY Bach parts." http://mytrumpets.info/muck_info.html More info: http://www.neillins.com/TR050.htm I bought a Rudy Muck 'Conductor' model awhile back and sold it a few months later for 3 times the amount I paid for it. (I wish I had kept that horn) It didn't play the best but it was a beaute. (a valve job would have done wonders I'm sure) The Academy model was the student horn. Next in line is the Contuctor. Then the Citation (these seem to be more sought after than the others) He also made the Balanced model which I'm guessing was his top of the line horn. High quality craftsmanship and detailing were obviously important to Rudy Muck. Dan Burton
dmb New Friend Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 36	__________________ Dan Burton

12-14-2003, 01:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
dmb New Friend Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 36	nowherenear, you might email this guy: robert_adams@mytrumpets.info. His sight is where I got the info in my previous post. He has pics and talks about his Balanced model here: http://mytrumpets.info/_trumpets.html. He may be able to help you. Dan Burton
dmb New Friend Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 36	__________________ Dan Burton

12-09-2003, 04:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
davidjohnson Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: arkansas Posts: 377	i recall that a well-known trumpet maker worked at rudy muck early in his career...don't know who. 'twas a big name, though. i have a rudy muck mpc, the plating's worn off..it's like the proverbial 'bored-out dime'...very shallow. dj

12-13-2003, 02:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
nowherenearadouble Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 69	Thanks for the posts. I have a friend that is selling his balanced model. I played it a while back, alot like an Olds Recording. Does anyone know an approx value? Thanks Alan

12-21-2003, 10:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
azerba New Friend Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Pendleton, Oregon USA Posts: 5	You got some good answers there in the form. The first time I ever heard of Rudy Muck horns was when I was a teenager and these horns were sold in the "Diamond Book," a wholesale catalog out of Chicago. In 1989 when I joined "The American Barvarian Brass," out of Beaumount, CA. I meet a studio muscian out of LA who played a bright silver citation, if I remember right it weighed about 2.5 to 2.75 lbs a heavier than my 65 Getzen Eterna, and to me it was not as free blowing as the Eterna, the it sounded good and the valve response was excellent and that is all I can remeber about the horn.

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