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    Vintage Holton 3rd Slide Stop Rod

    I made the mistake of marching with my '64 Stratodyne and I managed to lose the 3rd slide stop rod. It looks like this

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    If someone could find where I could get one, I would appreciate it.

    Thanks!

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    Re: Vintage Holton 3rd Slide Stop Rod

    A good repair tech should be able to fabricate one.
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    Re: Vintage Holton 3rd Slide Stop Rod

    Quote Originally Posted by BrassBandMajor View Post
    A good repair tech should be able to fabricate one.
    That is pretty much the only option. Those screws were made at the plant and there is nothing like them otherwise available.

    and what were you thinking ?! You bend up that bell and a good tech can make it smooth, but after that much working of such thin material, it will never sound right again. Stratodynes are rare, and cherished, horns. There are dozens of easily replaceable options for marching use.
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    Re: Vintage Holton 3rd Slide Stop Rod

    Well no need to be hostile, I think worse has happened to even more valuable horns. Thanks for your recommendations.
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    Re: Vintage Holton 3rd Slide Stop Rod

    Seems like to me you should be able to buy a replacement stop rod of a more or less generic kind. It's not exactly a critical part of your trumpet ...is it? A length of metal with a screw thread on one end with a nut and a stop on the other end, meant for keeping your third slide at a particular place, is hardly a thing of great mechanical engineering genius...is it? Who ...besides you... is going to be aware that a replacement slide stop isn't the 1964 factory original?

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    Re: Vintage Holton 3rd Slide Stop Rod

    These aren't even adjustable for the throw. They just keep the 3rd slide from falling out.
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    Re: Vintage Holton 3rd Slide Stop Rod

    That pic is the one I used in my eBay ad for reproduction parts. The top one is an OEM piece, the lower was machined from solid nickel silver stock on contract. My friend an technician par excellence Kent Finchum, at The Brass and Woodwind Shop in Plainfield IN may still have one. Contact Kent at (317) 203-5679, Home - The Brass and Woodwind Shop.

    A tech with a lathe can make one, but most would prefer to work from a known, especially if you want to preserve the originality of the horn.

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    Re: Vintage Holton 3rd Slide Stop Rod

    Disappointed in your remark, Dale. I thought you were into vintage horns.

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    Re: Vintage Holton 3rd Slide Stop Rod

    Yeah, it was not the world's best design. This is actually a two-piece construction, a rod threaded on each end and an internally threaded nut. So if the nut doesn't fall off first, the rod threads out and falls off. Being two pieces, the cost was elevated over other options too, but that is how Holton did it.
    I had the machinist add an extra thread on one end of the reproduction rods, just because. Plus, I use a little blue (removable) LocTite on the rod end when I install it, for safety's sake.
    IMHO Courtois has the best slide stop designs. Jason Harrelson borrowed from them for his "ball spring" design, which I first saw on the EVO series Courtois. I liked the previous generation better, which used just a good sized knurled knob screw.

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    Re: Vintage Holton 3rd Slide Stop Rod

    I am into vintage horns, and now have a Holton with one of those stops. I was just commenting on the lack of adjustment with it. No worse than the set-screw stops that come on a lot of modern horns, though.

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