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    We have 10 fingers, so why not ?

    Interesting. From the description I can't figure out if it was supposed to produce any sound.
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    Re: We have 10 fingers, so why not ?

    It looks interesting but beware.

    I once tried adding a base drum behind my back and a pair of cymbals between my knees to accompany myself while on the horn, I assumed I would become a musical god, a sort of trumpet equivalent of Bob Dylan, but I just became a figure of ridicule.

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    Re: We have 10 fingers, so why not ?

    I saw a line-drawing of this in a 1970s book and it seems this might have been a Sax invention?
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    Re: We have 10 fingers, so why not ?

    After looking at the site, it could use a PVA!!! Judging buy the brackets for screws, that is the makers estimation of it's best use!!!
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    Re: We have 10 fingers, so why not ?

    There was experimentations with 5 and maybe 6 valves brass instruments but they felt out of use...probably found not so practical

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    Most recently David Hickman designed a 5 valve trumpet but for entirely different purpose and quite different design, something that remonds me of these vintage A/Bb cornets:

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    Re: We have 10 fingers, so why not ?

    Certainly a virtuoso targeted instrument! Most players have enough to handle with three!!
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    Re: We have 10 fingers, so why not ?

    Quote Originally Posted by tobylou8 View Post
    Most players have enough to handle with three!!
    Exactly. For most, more is less. More of a distraction, than an advantage.

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    Re: We have 10 fingers, so why not ?

    The only reason I'd see for adding more valves would be to extend the lower range of the instrument - otherwise, it's already a chromatic instrument, and played in normal ranges, doesn't need additional help.
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    Re: We have 10 fingers, so why not ?

    This is said to be a decoration for an orchestrion (complex mechanical wind instrument on the automaton tradition), but it also says the valves were wire operated, and the mouthpiece receiver looks ready to be connected to some kind of air source. The tubbing/valve detail also looks legit in terms of sound modulation.

    Everything is too clean and rigth to have been made just for decoration purposes. That's what made me wonder if and how did it sound. What was used to vibrate the air? Anything good ebough to launcht a new trumpet embouchure theory?

    (Btw, looks like one of the first automatons was a trumpet player.)
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    Re: We have 10 fingers, so why not ?

    Quote Originally Posted by pss View Post
    Interesting. From the description I can't figure out if it was supposed to produce any sound.
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