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Old 09-11-2008, 10:38 PM   #1
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What model of Conn Coprion?

Even though I have all of my horn money tied up in refurbishing projects, I still couldn't help surfing Craig's List today. I found a Conn Coprion cornet that I cannot identify, even after going to Horn-u-copia and Conn Loyalist, as well as a few other internet resources. I thought it might be a 9A Victor, but it does not have a copper lead pipe. Also, although it's a lousy photo, it looks like the lead pipe does a double reverse (Z shape) before entering the third valve casing. Anyone know what model it is?

Cornet by Conn (Bb)

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Re: What model of Conn Coprion?

Hi Glen, That looks like a nice horn. Take a look at ebay 32008534895 a 1971 Japanese Conn Director-Shooting Stars, restored being sold by Leisuretime Musical Instruments. It is not a Coprion, but looks like the same tubing. I came across another surfing around , but can't recall exactly where, but will keep looking.
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Re: What model of Conn Coprion?

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Hi Glen, That looks like a nice horn. Take a look at ebay 32008534895 a 1971 Japanese Conn Director-Shooting Stars, restored being sold by Leisuretime Musical Instruments. It is not a Coprion, but looks like the same tubing. I came across another surfing around , but can't recall exactly where, but will keep looking.
When I plug that eBay item number into the eBay system it doesn't recognize it.

It would be helpful if you could give the http address from the top of your browser window,
such as
1966 CONN 8-B BRASS TRUMPET H54xxx W/CASE & MTHPCE JAZZ - eBay (item 150291630673 end time Sep-12-08 15:57:24 PDT)

I agree that the bottom tubing of that cornet looks like one of the 1971 Conn Directors that were made in Japan.
That bottom tubing from the 1971 Director always reminded me of the

bottom tubing of the Conn 36A at
The Conn Loyalist

and the bottom tubing of the King Master Model at
Vintage H. N. White Master large bore Cornet with Case - eBay (item 250292350826 end time Sep-14-08 18:40:00 PDT)

The Coprion Directors of the 1950's were called 18A, the Coprion Directors of the 1960's were called 17A, I didn't know that made the 1971 Japanese Directors with Coprion bells, so I don't know what model number they gave them.

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Re: What model of Conn Coprion?

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When I plug that eBay item number into the eBay system it doesn't recognize it.
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That's because it's on Craigslist

I cut and pasted the whole URL into my original post, but it seems the TM system converted it to a link. I hope this re-typed-out version of the address survives, so you can read it.

seattle.craigslist.org/tac/msg/836053955.html

Thanks to you and MFfan for the info though
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Re: What model of Conn Coprion?

sorry Morris, don't know how to do that. Is there a direct method? The correct number is 320085348925 on ebay stores.
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Hi Glen, That looks like a nice horn. Take a look at ebay 32008534895 a 1971 Japanese Conn Director-Shooting Stars, restored being sold by Leisuretime Musical Instruments. It is not a Coprion, but looks like the same tubing. I came across another surfing around , but can't recall exactly where, but will keep looking.
Well, if it is a Japanese Conn, that would explain why I couldn't find anything on the vintage sites. Suddenly it's a lot less interesting, but thanks for helping me satisfy my curiosity anyway
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That's because it's on Craigslist
I was referring to the other post that said
"Take a look at ebay 32008534895"



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sorry Morris, don't know how to do that. Is there a direct method? The correct number is 320085348925 on ebay stores.
As you are reading this post in Trumpet Master, the *very* top line of your Internet Explorer window is probably showing the Web address
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When you are in eBay, a similar Internet address should appear at the very top line of your Internet Explorer window.
Just drag your mouse pointer through that entire Internet address to highlight it (it changes color when it is highlighted), then press "Control" and "c" keys simultaneously to "copy" that Internet address into your computer's memory.
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Sometimes the address will appear as "http..." in the Trumpet Master post, or sometimes the Trumpet Master software will convert it into descriptive term, such as it did in the original post at the top of this thread.

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Well, if it is a Japanese Conn, that would explain why I couldn't find anything on the vintage sites. Suddenly it's a lot less interesting, but thanks for helping me satisfy my curiosity anyway
Well, we , at least learned something and curiosity is the sign of a nimble and inquisitive brain, which is a good thing! Now how long I'll recall the information is another matter.
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Well, we , at least learned something and curiosity is the sign of a nimble and inquisitive brain, which is a good thing! Now how long I'll recall the information is another matter.
Wasn't it Yamaha that was making the Conn Directors in 1971?
And wasn't Yamaha also making trumpets for some other company in the 1970's, trumpets that were infamous for having bad "Yamalloy" valves?
Was it for Schilke?

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