Originally Posted by MTROSTER

Your problem brings back memories of my early trumpet playing. My first trumpet was an Olds Ambassador(1953 vintage). For some reason my 2nd valve would start to stick. No amount of cleaning, oiling etc. would help. Oils were fairly simple in those days. It consisted of a glass bottle of oil with a pipe cleaner stuck on the cap. Just as suddenly the problem would disappear. I was too young to make a fuss at the time912), but never found out why this would happen. I know that much later Olds trumpets had sticking problems, but that was about the time they were going under.

Originally Posted by dizzyizzy

Jonathan...

The advice you've been given is great. But...since you are new to this...and no negative comment is intended...but...please DO NOT use any pliers, hammers, or other metal tools on any parts of your horn to try to move "stuck" things. You can rapidly do a great deal of damage...and you've got a good trumpet, and they are NOT replaceable (not being made anymore). MY first one was a 60's Olds Ambassador. Great horn. The "student" horns back then (some of us would say...) are "better" than a lot of horns students buy today.

For a stuck tuning slide...(the big one)...use a thin towel or other clean rag to pass thru the slide and pull with. A rope, or thin belt, or even your thumb (IF you push/pull hard enough) can bend/crush the slide curve. Same principle for the smaller slides, just thinner cloth to fit thru the narrower openings. But...TRY this AFTER soaking/cleaning. IF that doesn't work...go to a shop/professional.

After you OIL the valves (with valve oil...not anything else), there is an alignment piece towards the top portion of the valve that lines up with a groove cut into the top of the valve sleeve. (Look in the valve and see). Occasionally there are TWO of those, but one is a hair smaller than the other, and they only fit PROPERLY one way.

Valves totally dis-assemble, and its easy to replace corks...but do ONE at a time, and keep track of the "order" you find the parts in as you take them apart. I literally lay mine out in a row...as its important to keep the springs, etc in the same order.

IF anything that appears to "unscrew", but won't budge...(A) go to a shop! (B)...You can CAREFULLY and without a lot of force...wrap the "screwing" part with a thick towel part, or piece of rubber...and CAREFULLY and gently use a plier to get things started....but...see (A)

Most of what we're talking about here is fairly "cheap" for a pro to do...unsticking things and getting them to move.

Have fun, but be careful. I tell you the above as it was obscene what I did to my Olds in my ignorance...had to send it back to Olds for a rebuild after only 6 years due to my use of pliers & other non-nice tools when I stuck things. OH...horns LOVE cases! Do NOT leave them out where others & pets can knock them over, etc. Clean, lubricate and put away when done. (more knowledge learned the hard way WAAAAY back when).

Dizzyizzy

Originally Posted by vntgbrslvr

Take it in...It's a no risk way to a decent quality trumpet for you.

Based on your description, none of the fixes are major, so the cost shouldn't be very high.

Originally Posted by s.coomer

Yes, just take the horn to the repair shop before you damage it worse.

Originally Posted by jonathan.pranoto

Hello s.commer...thx for your reply
can repair shop move the totally stuck slides?

Originally Posted by ComeBackKid

Yes, some of mine had slides that were totally stuck. In this case, it is a bit of a problem. Since, the main tuning slide will move, that is good news because usually that is the hardest one to fix. So, just take it out and really clean and grease the inner pipes and it should be fine. The smaller slides are a little bit easier for two reasons: First, there is a lot less moisture that goes into those slides to cause corrosion, and second, they are smaller which means you can apply some force to remove them with less chance of damage (but, more on that later).

The first thing to do is to buy some penetrating oil. There are many posibilities. WD-40 is the most common but I don't think it works the best. Mouse Milk or Marvel Mystery Oil are both good if you can find them. There are silicone-based lubricants and also Teflon-based ones such as 'Break Free'. Buy one of these and then remove the valves and use the little red straw that comes with the spray can and stick the open end of the straw into the opening for that slide which is inside the valve casing and spray a LOT of oil into the inside of the slide. Also, apply a little bit to the area of the outside where the joint is between the slide and the tube from the valve. Then let it sit for a day or two. You might spray more oil in several times while it is sitting. Then take a cloth such as a dish towel and push one corner through the crook of the slide and pull it through to make a sling so you can hold on tightly to both ends. Be sure to be sitting down with the trumpet in your lap (have a towel to catch the dripping oil) and with one hand hold the trumpet steady and with the other pull on the towel to jerk the slide out. Be careful to not drop or bang the trumpet when the slide 'pops' out.

Hopefully this will work. There are other techniques to try but they are more involved so let's hope this does the trick.

BTW - if the slides still don't come out, try the cleaning bath that I mentioned before with the slides still in. That may help to loosen them.



OK. I read the ebay listing. While the seller may not be an expert, he did make a specific representation that the slides all moved. Since they do not, that is a basis for complaining to the seller and then to ebay if the seller does not respond or make an adjustment in the price. So, send a message to the seller immediately letting him know that. The price you paid was reasonable for one in playing condition - not one that needs a bunch of repairs.

Good luck.

Originally Posted by jonathan.pranoto

Hello..thx for your advice....
than if i do the cleaning bath metode as you said before....must i plug all the slides(moved and totally stuck) or i remove the slides that can moved?

all the slides are connected to the valve case right?...