Arban Characteristic Studies

wiseone2 · 01-23-2007, 01:44 PM

These studies have bugged me forever it seems. Last week a question arose about the second study's speed/style. I have never been comfortable with the metronome markings.
It dawned on me that I had the Jean-Marie version of the Arban somewhere in that mess I call my library. I went hunting for the book and found it.
I was not surprised to find the absence of metronome markings, not a one for any of the etudes.
I am working on the first and second studies at much more relaxed speeds.
The music has always spoken to me that way.
Wilmer

dlewis · 01-23-2007, 01:56 PM

I am still playing the same Arbans book I played back at Morgan in 1969

Hardnut · 01-23-2007, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wiseone2

These studies have bugged me forever it seems. Last week a question arose about the second study's speed/style. I have never been comfortable with the metronome markings.
It dawned on me that I had the Jean-Marie version of the Arban somewhere in that mess I call my library. I went hunting for the book and found it.
I was not surprised to find the absence of metronome markings, not a one for any of the etudes.
I am working on the first and second studies at much more relaxed speeds.
The music has always spoken to me that way.
Wilmer

I raised that question last week, and after several nights of trying to rigidly adhere to the metronome markings, I spoke to my teacher about it, and we decided that Arban probably intended the studies to be much more up to the student's discretion, and I am much happier playing the second study in a more relaxed way.

Chris.

wiseone2 · 01-23-2007, 03:00 PM

How many editions of the Arban are there? I have Clarke; Smith and Goldman; Smith, Goldman and Gordon. I would love to get an unedited version of the book. Does one exist?
Wilmer

timcates · 01-23-2007, 03:16 PM

I have a PDF version from the library of congress online that says it's revised and compiled by T.H. Rollinson and published by JW Pepper - interestingly, it was edited to be shorter and less expensive and claims to be the only edition available in the US.... I would assume that it was the first one available here in the states - maybe Leduc did the first one....

RG111 · 01-23-2007, 03:26 PM

Thats really interesting to know. I never realised the MM markings were not Arbans. I feel better now!
Thanks,
Roy

Veldkamp · 01-23-2007, 05:40 PM

http://www.bigbrowncow.com/files/arban.pdf

dlewis · 01-23-2007, 05:53 PM

My Arbans is a walter smith addition

gtromble · 01-23-2007, 09:52 PM

I took Chris Gekker's advice to heart -- that the correct style for the Arban studies meant they shouldn't be played to a rigid tempo. But since I'm nowhere near the marked tempo, it's nice to know that they may be overly brisk. I can relax a little :)

GT

Bugleboy21 · 01-24-2007, 12:00 AM

Is there any way that Walter Smith intended to leave the MM's off of his Top Tones? :)

I have always loathed practicing the Arban's studies, even when I began playing as a profession. In fact, I would much rather practice Bitsch and Smith's Top Tones over Arban's. I may have to revisit them now in this new light.

LD

01-23-2007, 01:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
wiseone2 Artitst in Residence Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brooklyn,NY Posts: 2,192	Arban Characteristic Studies These studies have bugged me forever it seems. Last week a question arose about the second study's speed/style. I have never been comfortable with the metronome markings. It dawned on me that I had the Jean-Marie version of the Arban somewhere in that mess I call my library. I went hunting for the book and found it. I was not surprised to find the absence of metronome markings, not a one for any of the etudes. I am working on the first and second studies at much more relaxed speeds. The music has always spoken to me that way. Wilmer
	__________________ Be sure Brain is engaged before putting Mouthpiece in gear. S.Suark 1951

01-23-2007, 01:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
dlewis Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: RANDALLSTOWN MARYLAND Brand: BACH Posts: 90	Re: Arban Characteristic Studies I am still playing the same Arbans book I played back at Morgan in 1969

01-23-2007, 03:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
wiseone2 Artitst in Residence Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brooklyn,NY Posts: 2,192	Re: Arban Characteristic Studies How many editions of the Arban are there? I have Clarke; Smith and Goldman; Smith, Goldman and Gordon. I would love to get an unedited version of the book. Does one exist? Wilmer
	__________________ Be sure Brain is engaged before putting Mouthpiece in gear. S.Suark 1951

01-23-2007, 03:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
timcates Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas - USA Posts: 81	Re: Arban Characteristic Studies I have a PDF version from the library of congress online that says it's revised and compiled by T.H. Rollinson and published by JW Pepper - interestingly, it was edited to be shorter and less expensive and claims to be the only edition available in the US.... I would assume that it was the first one available here in the states - maybe Leduc did the first one.... Last edited by timcates : 01-23-2007 at 03:29 PM.

01-23-2007, 03:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
RG111 Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 261	Re: Arban Characteristic Studies Thats really interesting to know. I never realised the MM markings were not Arbans. I feel better now! Thanks, Roy
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01-23-2007, 05:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
Veldkamp Piano User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: the Netherlands Brand: van Laar Posts: 375	Re: Arban Characteristic Studies http://www.bigbrowncow.com/files/arban.pdf
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01-23-2007, 05:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
dlewis Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: RANDALLSTOWN MARYLAND Brand: BACH Posts: 90	Re: Arban Characteristic Studies My Arbans is a walter smith addition

01-23-2007, 09:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
gtromble Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 174	Re: Arban Characteristic Studies I took Chris Gekker's advice to heart -- that the correct style for the Arban studies meant they shouldn't be played to a rigid tempo. But since I'm nowhere near the marked tempo, it's nice to know that they may be overly brisk. I can relax a little :) GT
	__________________ Galen Tromble Silver Spring, MD

01-24-2007, 12:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
Bugleboy21 Pianissimo User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Fort Monroe, VA Brand: Yamaha Posts: 72	Re: Arban Characteristic Studies Is there any way that Walter Smith intended to leave the MM's off of his Top Tones? :) I have always loathed practicing the Arban's studies, even when I began playing as a profession. In fact, I would much rather practice Bitsch and Smith's Top Tones over Arban's. I may have to revisit them now in this new light. LD
	__________________ SSG Laurence C Dean US Army TRADOC Band Fort Monroe, VA You have to be a SMAT Boy to transpose well! -William Vacchiano

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