wiseone2

Wow!
It's more difficult playing in high school than playing professionally.
Wilmer

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gzent

I agree with Dean.

There are a LOT of lead books for musicals that go up to high F's and G's, as well as plenty of pop tunes written in the last 30 years.

Unless you have a range that is comfortable above that, say to a double C, in the practice room, it seems foolish to try to play those notes in a live performance when the
pressure is on.

Of course, if you are a true musician you can always take them down an octave.

And after you lose a few gigs to someone who can nail those high notes you can sit at home and practice being a true musician even more.

Whether we like it or not the talent required to make ANY money playing the trumpet keeps getting raised. Unless you have the chops you ain't working.

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wiseone2

Well I don't.............
I espouse being a complete trumpet player, not a high note wonder. The world is full of unemployed high artists who can't play softly, who are lost when asked to articulate rapid passage work and who have sounds like screeching brakes.
The pursuit of those notes to the exclusion of music is stupid. Any HS band director who pressures young players to scream should be fired.
Wilmer

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derekkress

I would have to agree that a Double C is not a requirement to earn a living as a pro trumpet player, what is required is attitude, professionalism, sight-reading/transposition skills, musicality, SOUND and mastery of his instrument. In the end though this type of players does have a double C up his sleeve (I'm sure Mr.Wise does!) but 99.9% of the gigs it will never be required! My opinion though but I prefer the sound of the G and the A when it comes to the BIG NOTES at the end of a big band chart.

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veery715

As I recall it, everything in high school was more difficult.

veery
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Schwab

I wonder how many people advocating that you need the dubba c actually make a living playing trumpet?

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wiseone2

It puzzles me, too.
I have actually played Broadway shows for the last forty years......"Nine," "Sweeney Todd,""Crazy for You,""Into the Woods" and many others. I speak from experience, but the nay sayers claim I'm wrong. In the 32 years I played Principal Trumpet with the Brooklyn Philharmonic, I never saw a DHC. All those PBS shows I played........no DHC..........but what do I know?
Wilmer

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Markie

You say:
Well I don't.............
I espouse being a complete trumpet player, not a high note wonder. The world is full of unemployed high artists who can't play softly, who are lost when asked to articulate rapid passage work and who have sounds like screeching brakes.
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You seemed to have opened a can of worms with entry "Who needs DHC".
Those who need it? The one's who wish to incorperate it into their song.
It's pretty hard to say it sucks when a person hears the high note player in The Jazz Ambassadors, or Doc, or Cat, or Arturo, or MF, Bergeron ect, bite off a DHC at the end of a song. The effect causes the hair on the back of a person's neck to stand.

As for well rounded playing, I play Bach in church, I work my Arbans and I play DHC's at jazz gigs. Who needs to be able to play a DHC?..............I do.
High notes aren't for you and that's cool. But that's you.
I'll keep my DHC thank you. I've earned it and it sounds great.

DubbaCTrumpetMSU

Interesting thread, indeed...I'd have to agree that at least 90% of players don't need it...some don't want it, but a lot do. I've had it, used it, and have it on recording, which is good enough for me...but don't use it anymore. My money gigs are way below that area. :) Trust me, if I could trade someone a DHC for a paying gig like Wilmer has had for the last however long...I'd trade it in a heartbeat. Ironic, considering my name, eh?

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Pedal C

If you have it, you probably find ways to need it. If you don't have it, virtually no one will ever need you to play it.

Not having a DHC will only eliminate you from a very, VERY tiny number of gigs.

Bad phrasing, articulation, sound, control, sight reading, etc, will eliminate you from nearly any gig.

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