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Old 07-03-2007, 05:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Real World

The "Science Fiction" thread caught my eye.
Are we producing, in 2007, Super horns or Super players?
Just about thirty years ago a skinny kid rang my doorbell. He came in and played for me. I was blown away. Here was a teen-age kid who played like a seasoned professional.
How did this happen?
Technology.
The kid had experienced a half century of music in his living room, or on his Walkman. He had heard Pops, Diz, Miles, Bud, Maurice and the whole trumpet world in their prime.
There was no one saying, "That can't be done on a trumpet," because there it was on record that it could be done.
The young russian kid, who was even younger than the kid from New Orleans when I first met him, continues to dazzle and amaze me.
The skies the limit, we are truly living in an age of Paginini-like trumpet players.
And that's a fact
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well spoken. Bravo!





By the way, Paganinni didn't play a Strad.
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Old 07-03-2007, 09:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The "Science Fiction" thread caught my eye.
Are we producing, in 2007, Super horns or Super players?
Just about thirty years ago a skinny kid rang my doorbell. He came in and played for me. I was blown away. Here was a teen-age kid who played like a seasoned professional.
How did this happen?
Technology.
The kid had experienced a half century of music in his living room, or on his Walkman. He had heard Pops, Diz, Miles, Bud, Maurice and the whole trumpet world in their prime.
There was no one saying, "That can't be done on a trumpet," because there it was on record that it could be done.
The young russian kid, who was even younger than the kid from New Orleans when I first met him, continues to dazzle and amaze me.
The skies the limit, we are truly living in an age of Paginini-like trumpet players.
And that's a fact
Wilmer
Hear,Hear !
I echo your sentiments and I'm one of those who strongly believe the best is yet to come.
In addition,let's not forget the local stalwarts who haven't made the public splash or who refuse to travel for multiple reasons or whose profession yields a greater cash income than life on the road as a musician.
To paraphrase (Charlie Byrd) one of the movers and shakers in the introduction of the Bosa-Nova sound to these shores -
"The concept of boiling down who plays well to just a few people you've heard is very deceptive.I run into people all the time who are absolutely phenomenal players in one way of the other."
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:44 AM   #4 (permalink)
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may i ask what the name was of that russian kid that played for you in your living room?
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Re: The Real World

What makes me sad is that with all of this technology, school music education is as tough as it ever was.
The gifted are truely at an advantage today. As success is a fickle situation, we will see if they can withstand the test of time - just like Paganini did! If this type of player becomes commonplace, history could have a problem!
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may i ask what the name was of that russian kid that played for you in your living room?
My guess would be Alex Sipiagin?
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Wynton was the skinny kid, Sergei was the russian kid.
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Wynton was the skinny kid, Sergei was the russian kid.
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Sergei is pretty skinny also!

I saw Wynton in New Haven CT about 10 years ago and that sound still resonates in my head. I think it's amazing that some people are able to pick up a horn and bring so much of themselves out of it.

Both of these guys are able to transend the physics of the instrument and reduce it to a conduit for the music that comes directly from the soul. THAT is talent!
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A further plus for the kids of today is EXPOSURE. With the youtube generation, we become aware very quickly of talent lurking around. Those kids get chances that were not available 20 years ago. There we got noticed MAYBE at state band competitions!
This is the other side of technology Wilmer mentioned!
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Robin makes another good point. The same internet exposure he speaks about may hurt their commercial exposure because of illegal downloading of music which adversely affects the revenues of the recording companies.
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