Al, Doc, and Life

ecarroll · 08-17-2005, 12:07 PM

Call me an idealist (moi?), but I've always considered advanced musical training to be about making art rather than pursuit of a vocation. That said, great artists often find their vocation in the same.

Each teacher has his/her own way of meeting this challenge. There are as many approaches to the subject as there are teachers. . . more, when you factor in the individual needs of each student. My own might be described as a American/Euro hybrid (Stevie Burns calls this approach "American Air with European Flair", which I love). Details will emerge here over time, if asked.

Until then, this photo of Al and Doc should hold you over. . .

Best,
EC

"People are cheated out of the experience of 'becoming.' It's the computer which becomes now. People think 'Oh, boy, wait until I get this new program.' Bill Gates will give you a program to write a perfect Shakespearean sonnet. For God's sake, that's not becoming. People should practice an art in order to make their souls grow and not to make money or become famous. Paint a picture! Write!"
-Kurt Vonnegut

trickg · 08-17-2005, 12:12 PM

That photo is too funny! I'm saving that down into my personal archives!

Do you think that Al and Doc thought they were being artistic in that moment in time?

Great post Ed!

Trumpet Hobo · 08-17-2005, 12:16 PM

Why do they have those hats on

ecarroll · 08-17-2005, 12:41 PM

Trickg,

There's no way of telling for sure, but both could get away with interpreting "art" in any form that they wished!

One of my former CalArts students sent me that photo, suggesting that it looked like one of our graduate recitals (or the party afterwards) (no, actually more like the recital)

EC

Alex Yates · 08-17-2005, 01:57 PM

but that pic of Doc and Al is making me laugh so hard, my tummy hurts! LOLOLOL! Thanks for posting that Ed.

Also, I really like the "American Air with European Flair"....short and to the point while speaking volumes.

Heavens2kadonka · 08-17-2005, 02:01 PM

*Wants a viking hat now*

Van

dbacon · 08-17-2005, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trumpet Hobo

Why do they have those hats on

Half time show, football game between the Vikings and the Redskins in the 70's.

Just a guess!

Or a really great party that the rest of the pictures may not be something we could really show here.........

Heavens2kadonka · 08-17-2005, 11:07 PM

Hmmm, Al was a low-lip player.

Van

Trumpet Hobo · 08-19-2005, 11:00 AM

Your right, I didn't realise that the first time I looked at the picture.

JackD · 08-19-2005, 05:51 PM

It looks like doc is playing out of his nostril.

08-17-2005, 12:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
ecarroll Artist in Residence Forte User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NH/CA/PQ Posts: 1,311	Al, Doc, and Life Call me an idealist (moi?), but I've always considered advanced musical training to be about making art rather than pursuit of a vocation. That said, great artists often find their vocation in the same. Each teacher has his/her own way of meeting this challenge. There are as many approaches to the subject as there are teachers. . . more, when you factor in the individual needs of each student. My own might be described as a American/Euro hybrid (Stevie Burns calls this approach "American Air with European Flair", which I love). Details will emerge here over time, if asked. Until then, this photo of Al and Doc should hold you over. . . Best, EC "People are cheated out of the experience of 'becoming.' It's the computer which becomes now. People think 'Oh, boy, wait until I get this new program.' Bill Gates will give you a program to write a perfect Shakespearean sonnet. For God's sake, that's not becoming. People should practice an art in order to make their souls grow and not to make money or become famous. Paint a picture! Write!" -Kurt Vonnegut

08-17-2005, 12:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
trickg Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland Posts: 2,052	That photo is too funny! I'm saving that down into my personal archives! Do you think that Al and Doc thought they were being artistic in that moment in time? Great post Ed!
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Trumpet Hobo Pianissimo User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 101	Why do they have those hats on
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Alex Yates Forte User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Brand: ECLIPSE Posts: 2,401	I can't help it but that pic of Doc and Al is making me laugh so hard, my tummy hurts! LOLOLOL! Thanks for posting that Ed. Also, I really like the "American Air with European Flair"....short and to the point while speaking volumes.
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Heavens2kadonka Forte User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Carthage, TN Posts: 1,284	Wants a viking hat now Van
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08-17-2005, 12:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
ecarroll Artist in Residence Forte User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NH/CA/PQ Posts: 1,311	Trickg, There's no way of telling for sure, but both could get away with interpreting "art" in any form that they wished! One of my former CalArts students sent me that photo, suggesting that it looked like one of our graduate recitals (or the party afterwards) (no, actually more like the recital) EC

08-17-2005, 11:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
Heavens2kadonka Forte User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Carthage, TN Posts: 1,284	Hmmm, Al was a low-lip player. Van
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Trumpet Hobo Pianissimo User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 101	Your right, I didn't realise that the first time I looked at the picture.
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08-19-2005, 05:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
JackD Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Manchester / London Posts: 762	It looks like doc is playing out of his nostril.

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