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Old 09-17-2008, 01:44 AM   #1
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I can't find the music for the Antheil Sonata anywhere. I think this is out of print. Does anyone have any information on this?
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Re: Antheil

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It's been published by at least 2 houses that I'm aware of. It's in the McGill library and I'll grab it on Sunday unless Matthew (who played it in a Thompson masterclass last weekend) responds here first.

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By the way, for my money the Antheil Sonata is the best of the neo-classic sonatas for trumpet -- the two common American ones (three, if we count Ewazen) and yes, the Hindemith as well.

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Re: Antheil

I just ordered it from Portland Sheet Music a few days ago, they said it would be about 2 weeks.

Ed - I agree, its a great piece.
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Thanks Ed! I just ordered it. They said 12 have been ordered in the past week. Perhaps this post helped that!

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Mark,

Yes...the power of the internet and the cultural importance of TM. Maybe we should be cleaning up Wall St.?

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Re: Antheil

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Do you also consider Stevens, Delo Joio and Kennan in the neo classic style?
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Yes. Actually The Stevens and Kennan. I hardly consider Norman Dello Joio at all. Am I missing something?

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Sorry Ed, of course you are not missing anything. I just wondered if you had a different thought of where those pieces lay in the scheme of things.
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Re: Antheil

A note about the Antheil Sonata for Trumpet and Piano... There are tons, and I do mean tons, of misprints in the trumpet part!!! It is a clear case of a copyist who was not detail oriented and knew very little about transposition. The trumpet part in the score is in C while the printed part is in B-flat. If I had a college teaching job, I would have my students (as an exercise) search measure by measure for all of the problems.

Among the many issues to be found: wrong notes, unneeded courtesy accidentals (i.e. the copyist saw an E flat in the score and put a natural sign in front of the F in the part), missed articulation marks, changed articulation marks, invented articulation marks, omitted tempo marks, altered dynamic marks (i.e. the copyist saw a long crescendo in the score and made it into two crescendos in the part because it was on two lines of music), and I can't remember what else.

Unfortunately, many of these errors (including wrong notes!) make it into otherwise terrific recordings, so don't trust the trumpet part or every aspect of a recording you may have found.

BTW, I only found one suspect note in the trumpet part contained in the score. It's in the scherzo and is a short note (if memory serves) which doesn't match the first of each group of piano sixteenths like the surrounding material does. Other than that, I'm trusting the score which seems right on. I'll leave it to an actual scholary editor to bring anything else to light. I don't really have those skills.

Anyway, I agree with many of you. The Antheil is a very appealing piece. I wish the publisher Weintraub would do the work of fixing the part and for that matter simply publish a part in C. My desire to try this piece on C trumpet led me to the detailed search I've made of this part and it just really snowballed because the copyist was so bad. (C trumpet was the horn I ended up on, by the way.)

Happy hunting, Antheil fans!

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