TrentAustin

Wacky question...

Have any of you actually performed the second Trumpet part in A before? I would imagine Stravinsky wrote the 2nd part in A to achieve a greater tonal difference between the "brighter" C and "darker" A part.

I've played it before on Bb but not on A. I have two good older horns that play REALLY well in A. (it's not a horn/transposition issue: I can transpose just fine and have a 65G Bach that will be super dark).

Any thoughts?

Cheers,

T

__________________
http://trentaustin.com
Consultant, S.E. Shires Trumpets
Shires B59BLW "TA" model Bb trumpet
Adams Gold Brass Flugelhorn
Wedge Mouthpieces
PM me for an appointment to try a Shires!

trumpetnick

Trent,

I remember that we discussed this before on TM. Someone said that he was using a cornet for the A part, and though it is not written for it may be what you are searching for.

__________________
Spada Bach B flat 72, leadpipe 2L/DWMM1.5C
Spada Bach C 256, leadpipe 2LQ/DWMM1.5C
1956 Olds Ambassador Cornet
Spada Custom Piccolo

If you don't know where you are going, you 'll end up someplace else

dburdett

......i have a B flat part....

__________________
Bach 37* Melk leadpipe B flat,Bach 229 LB H pipe , Bach 189 E Flat, Yamaha 635T Flugel, Yamaha Custom Piccolo, Curry 3*.

dburdett

__________________
Bach 37* Melk leadpipe B flat,Bach 229 LB H pipe , Bach 189 E Flat, Yamaha 635T Flugel, Yamaha Custom Piccolo, Curry 3*.

ecarroll

Trent,

I've played both parts many times and each has a distinct character. Lennie asked me to play it on the cornet when I did it a bunch of times with the Chamber Music Society of Lincoln Center (he directed the CMS' Stravinsky festival, including performances of Renard, L'Histoire du Soldat, Ragtime, and others).

DB,

Transposition skills are important for every trumpeter to have. (I love that old Ghitalla disc, by the way)

Cheers,
EC

trumpetnick

Maynard was doing quite well even without that kind of transposing...well he had to transpose licks and charts, but that's another sotry, Right Ed?

__________________
Spada Bach B flat 72, leadpipe 2L/DWMM1.5C
Spada Bach C 256, leadpipe 2LQ/DWMM1.5C
1956 Olds Ambassador Cornet
Spada Custom Piccolo

If you don't know where you are going, you 'll end up someplace else

wiseone2

Most of the jazz players I know have the ability to transpose. I have played gigs with Soloff, Owens and many other great players of the music. It is important for EVERY musician to know how to transpose.
Wilmer

__________________
Be sure Brain is engaged before putting Mouthpiece in gear.
S.Suark 1951

Khora

I've played it on both Bb trumpet and on A cornet. I personally like the slightly different timbre from the 1st part that you get with the cornet. (Contrast is good, at least to my taste). But I've played for conductors who wanted a more even sound between the trumpets, and it works that way as well.

Fun part no matter what horn you play it on!

__________________
Sandy

"Conventional Wisdom" should not be applied to unconventional thinking.

TrentAustin

I think I'll play it on my 65G MLV Bach with my Osmun custom leadpipe. It's VERY dark and will compliment the sound of the C player without getting too dark.

Great posts everyone. I'm looking forward to hearing more replies.

Best,

T

__________________
http://trentaustin.com
Consultant, S.E. Shires Trumpets
Shires B59BLW "TA" model Bb trumpet
Adams Gold Brass Flugelhorn
Wedge Mouthpieces
PM me for an appointment to try a Shires!

ecarroll

Nick,

Surely we agree that most jazz musicians would have no trouble at all playing something down a half step (or up an augmented fourth, for that matter).

I'm assuming that everyone who attempts to play this score is musically literate. Being able to play a true sec stacatto is the challenge here, not which button to press down.

Best,
EC