trumpettrax

Do trumpeters train differently if they want to perform as a soloist versus say playing in an orchestra? It could really be any genre that we look at I guess. Jazz soloist vs. jazz band etc.

Trax

ecarroll

Trax,

Your question will probably generate a variety of opinions, but in my little corner of the musical world I view the technique needed to be an effective soloist (tongue/fingers like the wind, extended range, etc.) differs substantially from the sound and repetition based technique needed to play in an orchestra. That said, some orchestral principal trumpets have developed solid solo technique (Dave Bilger, a winner of the Concert Artists Guild competition and once asked to join the Canadian Brass) pops quickly to mind. John Wallace was a long standing orchestral trumpeter as was Reinhold Friederich.

The demands of the Alpine Symphony and Endless Parade/Nobody Knows the Trouble I See (insert concerto here) are rather different, wouldn't you agree?

Best,
EC

sinfoniantrumpeter

I think there is also a difference regarding style..i.e. articulation/sound/dynamics. A lot of orchestral players tounge much harder than would be needed (or even desired) for a solo player. Also dynamics can often have more nuance as well. as you aren't trying to cut through the [insert famous orchestra] string section.

trumpettrax

"technique needed to be an effective soloist (tongue/fingers like the wind, extended range, etc.)"

The fingers like the wind - are you talking about technical stuff?

ecarroll

Sinfonian,

Exactly. It's the trombones who cause most of the trouble, however. Always the trombones (silent scream).

Trax,

Everything that you do on the horn can be considered technical stuff, so yes, I suppose so. Take a long, hard look at that video that's floating around of Sergei playing Carnival of Venice.

Cheers,
EC

trpt2345

On youtube. Outstanding. He is truly scarey. Jason Marsalis told me one time that he first heard of Sergei Nakariakov when Delfeayo called him on the phone said, man, you have to hear this Russian trumpet player, he's better than Wynton! Jason said he didn't believe him then but now thinks it's a close call. And he does everything on Bb.

BTW, I played a little bit today with Leah Schuman who's one of our trumpet teachers, another Eastman grad and Charlie student, she says she's met Manny a few times. She was working on Vivaldi because she has to play it this weekend, so I played the second part on my Bb and she played the first on her picc, and it was actually pretty in tune. I don't think I've ever played second on that before. (I once did it on an Easter gig with Byron Stripling playing second-that was interesting!)

Michael McLaughlin

"Why do they put the Gideon bibles only in the bedrooms, where it's usually too late, and not in the barroom downstairs?" Christopher Morley

ecarroll

Michael,

I played Vivaldi with Crispian Steele-Perkins once, me on my G trumpet and he on the nat. It kinda worked.

Please say hi to Leah for me? She translated when I gave two weeks of masterclasses at the St. Petersburg Conservatory (Margolin's class) back in the 90s.

Best,
EC