brassmojo

Tony---

I had a minor discussion with another Trumpet player. This player believes the Cup mute (what ever you use, H&B Mica-Mute, Standard H&B or Ray Robinson) should be all the way in. So far in that the end of the cup fits flush against the trumpet bell. I thought the cup should be in when it is in tune and there it should stop? For my horns I usually have about a 1/2" gap between the bell and the tip or rim of the cup

When playing a chart requiring a "Tight Cup" how far in should you have your standard, average, run of the mill H&B cup? Should the end tips touch the bell or should there be a gap? Or do you wait for the music director to shout at you for being too loud or too quiet then adjust the cup?


You comments?

John

kadleck

John -

I used to carry around an adjustable cup mute but got too lazy to deal with it. Now I just bring my Humes & Berg "Mic-a-mute". If you take off the rubber piece, it acts as a Ray Robinson mute (my personal fave), without the cup falling off (as is always the case with the Robinson).

I also shoot for a 1/2 inch gap. If the part says "tight cup" I just jam it in farther. (insert jokes here).

TK

brassmojo

Thanks Man for the info--

Most Classical oriented players use and swear by the Denis Wick adjustable cup. It's a good mute but a little dark and has "non-cup"sound. I use the Robinson mute for normal stuff and the Mica for tight cup.
Lew Soloff turned me on the Ray Robinson mute---a great mute if you can find one.
Later

kadleck

I agree. The Wick sounds very cool, yet never sounds like a standard cup mute to me. They are great for solos but not so hot in the section.

Tony

Ed Kennedy

The old Shastock mutes with the adjustable metal cup are nice too. Wish I still had one. Had a Ray Robinson too. Sigh.

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hehehe.:)

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rowuk

I love my old Bach black plastic cup, you can put it in the dishwasher too if you needed to use it as a beer glass..............

1/2 an inch and jamming are my recipe too

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brassmojo

"Bach Plastic" mute...I made a note of your suggestion. I'm trying to figure out a way to get the mute (filled with beer) into the Pit without spilling it and without the Director knowing. Now the next problem....where to store the pretzels?

J.

wilcox96

Storing pretzels? Isn't that what a "bucket" mute is for? hmmmm??

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Fluffy615

It might be easier to store peanuts in your straight mute. A bottle of beer should fit into the flugel bell, then just pour into the plastic cup mute when the conductor isn't looking. Wow, I think I've thought about this a little too much!

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