Slide Grease

brassmojo · 06-30-2008, 03:10 PM

Hi TK

Have you ever used "Dow Corning's High Vacuum Grease" for you Trumpet slides? (I saw it advertised on the "Dillonmusic" website). If you have do you have a critique?

John

kadleck · 07-01-2008, 02:14 AM

John -

Never heard of it. Been using that Schilke stuff for years.

Tony

MJ · 07-01-2008, 08:32 AM

I have heard of it and used it. I think it is made for a plumbing application but works well on slides. Very thick and cheap. You can get it in any hardware store. The little tub of Schilke stuff looks a bit more civilized in the case.

oldlips48 · 07-01-2008, 10:41 AM

It's actually used in chemical and medical labs to get a good seal between two pieces of ground glass. Most people have seen a Bell Jar used with a vacuum pump to make a balloon get bigger or actually boil water in a vacuum. The vacuum grease forms the seal between the Bell Jar and the base.

No reason why it shouldn't work as a slide grease. It's REALLY THICK, so you may not want to use it on your third valve slide. It's pretty inert too, based on slicone, not petroleum products.

Here's a link with some info if you're interested:

Dow Corning High Vacuum Grease - 976V - SPI Supplies

kadleck · 07-01-2008, 10:45 AM

OK, now it's obvious that I know nothing about plumbing! So that's why I've paying somebody $100/hr.

brassmojo · 07-01-2008, 06:54 PM

You'd think trumpet players would know a lot about plumbing. I can't even fix my sink.

Its amazing what kind of things brass players come up with.

John

rowuk · 07-02-2008, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldlips48

It's actually used in chemical and medical labs to get a good seal between two pieces of ground glass. Most people have seen a Bell Jar used with a vacuum pump to make a balloon get bigger or actually boil water in a vacuum. The vacuum grease forms the seal between the Bell Jar and the base.

No reason why it shouldn't work as a slide grease. It's REALLY THICK, so you may not want to use it on your third valve slide. It's pretty inert too, based on slicone, not petroleum products.

Here's a link with some info if you're interested:

Dow Corning High Vacuum Grease - 976V - SPI Supplies

BEWARE!!!!!!!!
I tried some military grade silicone grease on my trumpet many years ago. The slides worked really well and I thought that I was on to something HOT. I had a 6 hour gig on the weekend, and about half way through, my valves got REALLY SLOW! The silicone grease had thinned out a bit and started to wander through the horn and scummed my valves up. You just can't wipe silicone off. I used a whole bottle of Al Cass that night - and learned my lesson. I don't know about this other stuff, I wouldn't try it before any gigs though!

trumpetnick · 07-02-2008, 02:21 AM

I use La Tromba slide grease. It smells nice and works even better. Never had problems with my slides since I started using it. If ain't broken, why fix it?

de_Genova · 10-08-2008, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldlips48

It's pretty inert too, based on slicone, not petroleum products.

I just read an article on valves and oils etc and it mentions silicone based materials as being not so good for horns - i.e., brass etc., because they leave behind a crystalline deposit on the slide or valve. This eventually builds up causing damage.

et_mike · 10-08-2008, 06:57 AM

Personally... since I've started using Ultra Pure I don't think I will ever try anything else!

06-30-2008, 03:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
brassmojo Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 56	Slide Grease Hi TK Have you ever used "Dow Corning's High Vacuum Grease" for you Trumpet slides? (I saw it advertised on the "Dillonmusic" website). If you have do you have a critique? John

07-01-2008, 02:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
kadleck Artist in Residence Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: new york Posts: 503	Re: Slide Grease John - Never heard of it. Been using that Schilke stuff for years. Tony

07-01-2008, 08:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
MJ Forte User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Naptown Posts: 1,919	Re: Slide Grease I have heard of it and used it. I think it is made for a plumbing application but works well on slides. Very thick and cheap. You can get it in any hardware store. The little tub of Schilke stuff looks a bit more civilized in the case. __________________

07-01-2008, 10:41 AM	#4 (permalink)
oldlips48 Pianissimo User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 131	Re: Slide Grease It's actually used in chemical and medical labs to get a good seal between two pieces of ground glass. Most people have seen a Bell Jar used with a vacuum pump to make a balloon get bigger or actually boil water in a vacuum. The vacuum grease forms the seal between the Bell Jar and the base. No reason why it shouldn't work as a slide grease. It's REALLY THICK, so you may not want to use it on your third valve slide. It's pretty inert too, based on slicone, not petroleum products. Here's a link with some info if you're interested: Dow Corning High Vacuum Grease - 976V - SPI Supplies __________________ I gotta get me one of those cool slogans.....

07-01-2008, 10:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
kadleck Artist in Residence Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: new york Posts: 503	Re: Slide Grease OK, now it's obvious that I know nothing about plumbing! So that's why I've paying somebody $100/hr.

07-01-2008, 06:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
brassmojo Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 56	Re: Slide Grease You'd think trumpet players would know a lot about plumbing. I can't even fix my sink. Its amazing what kind of things brass players come up with. John

07-02-2008, 02:21 AM	#8 (permalink)
trumpetnick Forte User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vidin, Bulgaria Posts: 1,056	Re: Slide Grease I use La Tromba slide grease. It smells nice and works even better. Never had problems with my slides since I started using it. If ain't broken, why fix it? __________________ Spada Bach B flat 72, leadpipe 2L/DWMM1.5C Spada Bach C 256, leadpipe 2LQ/DWMM1.5C 1956 Olds Ambassador Cornet Spada Custom Piccolo If you don't know where you are going, you 'll end up someplace else

10-08-2008, 06:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
et_mike Piano User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 475	Re: Slide Grease Personally... since I've started using Ultra Pure I don't think I will ever try anything else! __________________ ~Mike "Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school." ~A. Einstein Check out my boy Mark Ingraham... http://www.bungalo6.com/ (site is still under construction... you can hear them at http://cdbaby.com/cd/bungalo6 )

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