Most Lyrical Jazzer

The BuZZ · 04-06-2007, 05:17 PM

Who, in your opinion do you find to be the most melodic improvisor, regardless of tempo or style?
For me, that would be Art Farmer.............. Man, regardless of the groove, tempo, or the complexity of the chord changes, Art was so damn lyrical! The cat just played so musical when he improvised! Flumpet, Flugelhorn, or Trumpet just sang when he played any of them...........very fortunate to have heard him live on three occasions!

Brekelefuw · 04-06-2007, 05:19 PM

Clifford Brown for sure. He could float through everything that was thrown at him. Listen to his solo on September Song with Sarah Vaughn. I think that is the most beautiful trumpet solo ever recorded.

Fluffy615 · 04-06-2007, 05:28 PM

Clifford Brown with Strings is one of the most beautiful recordings I've ever heard. I know there are many great players out there, and I aprreciate them, but Brownie was certainly smooth when he wanted to be.

gridjam · 04-06-2007, 05:42 PM

Miles played some pretty heavy melodies...if we are talking about more linear stuff there are many.
I just pulled out an old transcription book from my Berklee days...Tom Harrell, Kenny Dorham, Pops, Bix,Freddie,Nat Adderly, CLARK TERRY,Joe Newman, Lee Morgan (Blue Train solo!), Freddie Webster...
Also- for me, I hear alot of deep melodic lines and ideas coming out of Kenny Wheeler and Booker Little...
to name a few!
Art too, I heard him a bunch when I lived in Austria and he was always searching and studying, never content with just playing what-ever...

Brekelefuw · 04-06-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gridjam

Lee Morgan (Blue Train solo!),

I remember the first time I heard Lee's Blue Train solo. I was just pulling into my driveway when it started on the radio. I put the car into park and just sat there in awe. I had never heard something so incredible. I think I waited through 2 or 3 more songs before the host announced who it was (before I could identify Lee's sound.)

The BuZZ · 04-06-2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gridjam

Miles played some pretty heavy melodies...if we are talking about more linear stuff there are many.
I just pulled out an old transcription book from my Berklee days...Tom Harrell, Kenny Dorham, Pops, Bix,Freddie,Nat Adderly, CLARK TERRY,Joe Newman, Lee Morgan (Blue Train solo!), Freddie Webster...
Also- for me, I hear alot of deep melodic lines and ideas coming out of Kenny Wheeler and Booker Little...
to name a few!
Art too, I heard him a bunch when I lived in Austria and he was always searching and studying, never content with just playing what-ever...

"gridjam",
When were you attending Berklee? I was there from 76-80. I studied with Lou Mucci, Jeff Stout and Wayne Naus! It was a wonderful institution to study at!......and btw, I agree with all of your choices, probably never a good idea to ask who the best, most, greatest, ugliest, etc, etc. I have many, many heroes of influence!

The BuZZ · 04-06-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Brekelefuw

I remember the first time I heard Lee's Blue Train solo. I was just pulling into my driveway when it started on the radio. I put the car into park and just sat there in awe. I had never heard something so incredible. I think I waited through 2 or 3 more songs before the host announced who it was (before I could identify Lee's sound.)

I had the same impression the 1st time I heard that solo as well! I was 17, a freshman @ Berklee, when my roomate put on that vinyl. After talking myself out of quitting school and going back home, I figure that if Lee was 19 when he did that seesion with Trane, that I could get there too in two years time....................well, here I am @ 48 still trying to play at that level!

What artistry,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

westview1900 · 04-06-2007, 06:01 PM

I don't know about being the most lyrical jazzer, but Warren Vache's sound is very pleasing to me.

tromj · 04-06-2007, 07:18 PM

Tom Harrell, Ron Horton, Art Farmer....Roy Eldridge when the mood struck him.
How bout some of those Louis solos. They sound like melodies etched in stone.

Jordan

TrentAustin · 04-06-2007, 08:32 PM

Louis, Miles, Bix, Clifford, CT, Sweets Edison, Tom Harrell, Art Farmer, Chet Baker, Jack Sheldon, for Trumpet for sure. That's a tiny start!

I do love Zoot Sims, Lester Young, Ben Webster, Johnny Hodges, Bird, Sonny Stitt, John Coltrane etc for sax!

How about Bill Evans, Hank Jones, Keith Jarrett and Ahmad Jamal? Now we're talking!

Heck, I find Elvin Jones extremely lyrical.

Why stop at just trumpets ;)

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The BuZZ Pianissimo User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Chester, NY Brand: Stage 1, Calicchio Posts: 154	Most Lyrical Jazzer Who, in your opinion do you find to be the most melodic improvisor, regardless of tempo or style? For me, that would be Art Farmer.............. Man, regardless of the groove, tempo, or the complexity of the chord changes, Art was so damn lyrical! The cat just played so musical when he improvised! Flumpet, Flugelhorn, or Trumpet just sang when he played any of them...........very fortunate to have heard him live on three occasions!
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Brekelefuw Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 866	Re: Most Lyrical Jazzer Clifford Brown for sure. He could float through everything that was thrown at him. Listen to his solo on September Song with Sarah Vaughn. I think that is the most beautiful trumpet solo ever recorded.

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Fluffy615 Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: New Jersey Brand: Stage One Vintage Bb Posts: 138	Re: Most Lyrical Jazzer Clifford Brown with Strings is one of the most beautiful recordings I've ever heard. I know there are many great players out there, and I aprreciate them, but Brownie was certainly smooth when he wanted to be.

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gridjam Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York Brand: BACH Posts: 142	Re: Most Lyrical Jazzer Miles played some pretty heavy melodies...if we are talking about more linear stuff there are many. I just pulled out an old transcription book from my Berklee days...Tom Harrell, Kenny Dorham, Pops, Bix,Freddie,Nat Adderly, CLARK TERRY,Joe Newman, Lee Morgan (Blue Train solo!), Freddie Webster... Also- for me, I hear alot of deep melodic lines and ideas coming out of Kenny Wheeler and Booker Little... to name a few! Art too, I heard him a bunch when I lived in Austria and he was always searching and studying, never content with just playing what-ever...

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westview1900 Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 116	Re: Most Lyrical Jazzer I don't know about being the most lyrical jazzer, but Warren Vache's sound is very pleasing to me. Last edited by westview1900 : 04-06-2007 at 06:02 PM. Reason: more easily understood

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tromj Piano User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Teaneck, NJ Posts: 313	Re: Most Lyrical Jazzer Tom Harrell, Ron Horton, Art Farmer....Roy Eldridge when the mood struck him. How bout some of those Louis solos. They sound like melodies etched in stone. Jordan
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TrentAustin Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Boston, MA Brand: they have brand names? ;) Posts: 1,333	Re: Most Lyrical Jazzer Louis, Miles, Bix, Clifford, CT, Sweets Edison, Tom Harrell, Art Farmer, Chet Baker, Jack Sheldon, for Trumpet for sure. That's a tiny start! I do love Zoot Sims, Lester Young, Ben Webster, Johnny Hodges, Bird, Sonny Stitt, John Coltrane etc for sax! How about Bill Evans, Hank Jones, Keith Jarrett and Ahmad Jamal? Now we're talking! Heck, I find Elvin Jones extremely lyrical. Why stop at just trumpets ;)
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